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  • Mercedes E320 2000 - On Board J.A.R.V.I.S.

    Project #1
    mercedes benz E320 year 2000
    current features-steering wheel functions, 2 DIN radio/climate control area

    installation goal-minimum 7 inch touch screen with the basic media playing capabilities, ability to connect to the cars OBD and see updates such as gas, door open, low washer fluid, remote start, voice command system, web browser

    Budget-as of now, i am planning on doing all labor myself so that leaves parts that i dont have a total budget of $600(minimum)

    im basically sold on using a windows system.

    Before i start looking for a mother board to start with I'd like some direction if the above goals are practical.

    hoping to get started asap.
    thanks

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  • #2
    Any advice would be useful.

    Whats my step one?

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    • #3
      At least you said $600 (minimum) - some come on here thinking $600 (maximum) and end up spending twice as much.

      7inch touchscreen, standard.
      Multimedia playback, standard.
      OBD, some people do it, some don't. Easy enough.

      Step one is going to be reading through the FAQ's on this site. They're not your typical FAQ list - they're helpful and will give you some direction.

      Are you keeping your headunit? Are you removing your headunit?
      That could be your step one - because either choice will take you down a different path. Gives you different things to consider.

      If you're removing your headunit now you have to factor more power for the AMP, so that means bigger power line - also means you have to figure out whether you're doing onboard audio, or external sound card, or how you're doing your audio - what will you be happy with.

      If you're keeping your headunit (like my install) you have to figure out how you're going to get audio to the headunit. This for me meant the purchase of a special adapter to use factory aux - this also means less power draw to me, but not as integrated of a setup.

      Then you have to decide where you're placing your touchscreen. Are you going to fabricate it yourself? Do you have the skill set to fabricate it yourself? I didn't/don't so I sent mine out to be fabricated for me.

      Each decision will have an impact on your budget as well. It could be only a $10 stereo mini cable, or it could be a $100 fabrication, or a $200 AMP - or more.

      Are you going to use Centrafuse, Ride Runner, or something else for your front end?
      Are you going to go Atom with a super small case, or go desktop processor with possibly a larger case? Where are you going to mount your case?

      This thread might have been better in a different location if you're just at the planning stage. Usually worklog section is for when you've started work, and know the majority of your paths. As you work on it - you could change direction - like me.

      I wanted to replace the stereo with the CarPC entirely. But I couldn't do that without some high dollar fabrication. I didn't want that route so I opted for a less expensive install route. I'm still happy with my choice - but it was something that I didn't figure out until I had gone from choosing to remove headunit and looking at fabrication.

      There's a link in my signature to the FAQ. I highly suggest it, it will help give you some direction.
      FAQ to the FAQ - Great Starting Point

      My 2006 Honda Accord Carputer - Work In Progress
      My 1997 Chrysler Concorde Carputer - Died

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      • #4
        If you're removing your headunit now you have to factor more power for the AMP, so that means bigger power line - also means you have to figure out whether you're doing onboard audio, or external sound card, or how you're doing your audio - what will you be happy with.

        Not sure exactly what you mean by this^^^

        Not sure yet as to which front end program i want to use, i want to get hardware down before i start specifics of software.

        Would you mind taking a look at this mini-desktop?
        here is what i plan to use a the pc
        http://dealnews.com/Acer-Aspire-REVO...ng/365163.html

        What do you think?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by avbar88 View Post
          If you're removing your headunit now you have to factor more power for the AMP, so that means bigger power line - also means you have to figure out whether you're doing onboard audio, or external sound card, or how you're doing your audio - what will you be happy with.

          Not sure exactly what you mean by this^^^
          The current stereo in your car, are you keeping that or removing it entirely? If you remove it entirely and replace it with just the CarPC you will need to get the audio from the PC to the car's speakers somehow. Here is the link to the FAQ entry regarding this. I suggest reading it. (Along with visiting the FAQ link in my signature)

          Originally posted by avbar88 View Post
          Not sure yet as to which front end program i want to use, i want to get hardware down before i start specifics of software.
          Centrafuse is more grpahic intensive than other front ends. If you end up wanting to use Centrafuse and purchase hardware that doesn't support Centrafuse you're going to regret it.

          That's like buying a Mac because you like the looks then buying Windows. Yeah, you can put the two together but it would've been easier to start out with Windows compatible hardware.

          Originally posted by avbar88 View Post
          Would you mind taking a look at this mini-desktop?
          here is what i plan to use a the pc
          http://dealnews.com/Acer-Aspire-REVO...ng/365163.html
          It looks good, you'll likely need to start looking at the Carnetix PSU to power that. Will the 160GB hard drive be enough for music/OS/apps for you or do you think you'd do an external drive in addition to that?
          FAQ to the FAQ - Great Starting Point

          My 2006 Honda Accord Carputer - Work In Progress
          My 1997 Chrysler Concorde Carputer - Died

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          • #6
            I wouldnt mind keeping my original headunit(picture posted) only bc i know if i have a short drive i wouldnt bother with the pc and just flick on the radio(possible?)

            Will the desktop in the link i posted have enough power to run centrafuse should i choose to run it?

            Ive been looking around on the site for mechanical touchscreens that would go back into the DIN space when its not in use, leaving me access to the original headunit buttons(for radio) and as a extra protection from theft. any ideas where i can find something along those lines?

            Thanks in advance

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            • #7
              I also got a few good leads on touchscreens to go with.

              If someone can give a look and let me know if i should run away or for these, I;d appreciate it.

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-ful...fAudioQ5fVideo

              http://www.amazon.com/Boss-BV9980RDS.../dp/B001CBXUT4

              http://cgi.ebay.com/7-Touch-Screen-D...85208076813167

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              • #8
                Hey check out the above post^^^^^

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                • #9
                  Hey,
                  anyone got a quick minute to look at these touch screen options.


                  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-ful...fAudioQ5fVideo

                  http://www.amazon.com/Boss-BV9980RDS.../dp/B001CBXUT4

                  http://cgi.ebay.com/7-Touch-Screen-D...85208076813167

                  Much appreciated!

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                  • #10
                    Only the first screen there would work with a car pc. The others are touchscreen stereos. Big difference. You could get video on them, but it'd be crappy looking. And you'd have no touchscreen capability with the computer with those...

                    As far as screen options go, search! Find something that falls in your price range and meets what you need and do a little searching on the forums. It's all been answered before.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Teebs View Post
                      Only the first screen there would work with a car pc. The others are touchscreen stereos. Big difference. You could get video on them, but it'd be crappy looking. And you'd have no touchscreen capability with the computer with those...

                      As far as screen options go, search! Find something that falls in your price range and meets what you need and do a little searching on the forums. It's all been answered before.
                      You'll need VGA/USB.
                      FAQ to the FAQ - Great Starting Point

                      My 2006 Honda Accord Carputer - Work In Progress
                      My 1997 Chrysler Concorde Carputer - Died

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                      • #12
                        ok ok found one that I think fits the description of what im looking for

                        http://www.short-circuit.com/product...l#ReviewHeader

                        will this give me the capabilities of what im looking for?

                        back to my previous question,

                        will i be able to have both the car pc and original head unit running side by side?
                        the way i have it is when the carpc is running it blocks off the head unit anyways but when i have a quick drive down to the office i want to just flick on the head unit and listen to the radio
                        possible?

                        also are their programs to allow me to run the radio antenna to my car pc?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by avbar88 View Post
                          ok ok found one that I think fits the description of what im looking for

                          http://www.short-circuit.com/product...l#ReviewHeader

                          will this give me the capabilities of what im looking for?

                          back to my previous question,

                          will i be able to have both the car pc and original head unit running side by side?
                          the way i have it is when the carpc is running it blocks off the head unit anyways but when i have a quick drive down to the office i want to just flick on the head unit and listen to the radio
                          possible?

                          also are their programs to allow me to run the radio antenna to my car pc?

                          A
                          OMG.... I remember when I had a budget of $600.00. Now I think ive spent almost $4,000!

                          Well anyways, I do business with Short-Circuit and have bought their VM70 series screens. I am also buying the VMI70 (the screen you linked to). I will tell you it the same as the VM70, but obviously fits in a single din space. There are some flaws with the screen though. Number 1 issue, the gears are made of plastic, so over the years the gears start to break down and the screen will not open over time. Number 2, the screen has this weird wobble issue. If the screen is not supported from the back when opened, and you press the touchscreen the screen will push backwards and forward. Eventually overtime this till cause the screen to not open fully. Other then those 2 issues, the screen is fine. I am going to be buying 2 of these screens because I have no choice. I need a screen that folds into a single din form factor. What I plan to do though, is investigate maybe replacing the gears with metal ones in the future. Now to prevent the wobble, simply add a piece to you dash that sticks out a little, kinda like with doors. You know the little metal thing with rubber that prevents the door from hiting the wall and breaking it. That should work.
                          Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                          1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                          4X MK808b
                          3x Perixx Touchpads
                          3x 7 inch Screens
                          1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                          1x Win 7 PC

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                          • #14
                            was thinking the same thing about replacing the gears,
                            im taking apart my car, that shouldnt be too much of a challenge

                            that seems like a good idea, adding something to the back

                            i realized that the asus EEEbox i bought only has an hdmi output...now what?
                            it came with this hdmi to dvi thingy but im still lost on how to get it to connect to a vga

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by avbar88 View Post
                              was thinking the same thing about replacing the gears,
                              im taking apart my car, that shouldnt be too much of a challenge

                              that seems like a good idea, adding something to the back

                              i realized that the asus EEEbox i bought only has an hdmi output...now what?
                              it came with this hdmi to dvi thingy but im still lost on how to get it to connect to a vga
                              It depends, is that HDMI to DVI converter, converting it to DVI-A or DVI-D. If its DVI-A, then you buy the cheapy DVI to VGA connectors http://www.antonline.com/p_F2E4261-GP_37925.htm. Now if its DVI-D, which most DVI ports for HDTVs are, then you would need this. http://www.hdfury.com/. I had to use the HDFURY. It basically converts the DVI-D into something the VGA can use. Its pricey, but the only way to do it. Just pray its not DVI-D. The unit cost me $115.00.
                              Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                              1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                              4X MK808b
                              3x Perixx Touchpads
                              3x 7 inch Screens
                              1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                              1x Win 7 PC

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