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    YES thats right.... I am going to fuse modern technology with 40+ year old technology. I see it only fitting since Cadillac has been a pinacle in domestic automotive technology since most of us werent even thought of.

    Those of you that have met me on rare occasion will know, *coughs Gizmo*, I am all about the Cadillacs... not just because of their popularity, but also their complexity. Well, 10 years ago I had a '69 Sedan Deville that I tried to restore and failed misserably due to lack of $ and a place to put all the parts which wound up being sold to a guy and his son for 400 bucks just to get it out of my yard.

    Fast forward till this past spring, and I picked up a '69 Coupe Deville in St. Louis (sorry Gizmo, I would have said something but it was spur of the moment and I didnt even know I was going down there till I was already in the car)










    Since this is a website/forum dedicated to fusing computers with automobiles, ill stave the majority of the details of what I've been doing, but I'll post a link to my photobucket worklog instead.

    LINK: 1969 Cadillac Deville resto project

    Anyone that said "I wish I had a shop then I would do stuff like this" would be supprized what you can do in a 2 1/2 car garage. I am obligated to share the other 1 car side with my girlfriend so her car isnt subjected to the elements like mine is. (we have identical 2008 Dodge Charger Daytona's as you will see by looking through my other photo albums which I will be hacking the OEM nav system eventually to put a bigger harddrive in - 17 gigs just isnt enough)

    Anyway, the dashboard of this car is immaculate and I am going to leave the stock radio intact (doesnt work anyway) but the arm rest is HUGE and would easily accomodate an entire car pc about the same size as the one that was used in my '97 Seville project. Oh hey, look at that, a left over projcet pc from my '09 HHR... yup it just got reassigned

    ps ( I might have started this thread somewhere else that I just realized as I started typing this.... oops... I'll update my sig with "this" thread as soon as i post it... sorry)
    Last edited by MindDrive; 02-17-2011, 09:22 AM.
    98 Chevy Astro AWD

    1969 Cadillac Deville

    2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

    '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

  • #2
    got a lot done to the engine, but opening "this", and taking "that" off has led me away from actually building the PC into the build as of yet due to the financial investment (im down $5000 in the engine alone) ~_~

    98 Chevy Astro AWD

    1969 Cadillac Deville

    2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

    '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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    • #3
      I'm interested to watch this progress... I have a '66 Deville that I'm just comping at the bit to get started.
      "Have we grown so hard we can't feel right or wrong, or have we grown so cold we just don't care?" - Dave Matney

      I don't currently have a CarPC, I just ask a lot of questions.

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      • #4
        if yours has an arm rest as big as the 69's i'd start there for the motherboard etc. its centrally located (easy to get to) and has direct access through the seat into the stock holes in the carpet to run wires up along the center mound to amps/gauges etc.

        due to the $ involved, i wont be doing a complete restoration to 'trophy' quality... im just gonna do enough so that i can enjoy the car for what it is and show off some tech
        98 Chevy Astro AWD

        1969 Cadillac Deville

        2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

        '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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        • #5
          Progress so far:

          engine completely rebuilt- $5000
          frame rebuilt and restored- $2500
          had a shop split the body and frame and recondition all the frame components, suspension, steering, rear end, and recoat the underbody and firewall.

          should be getting it back sometime next week and i get the fun task of custom making brackets for all the stuff that bolts onto the engine since im adding a completely indipendant power circuit.

          Priority now is just trying to figure out how all the pieces go back together @_@ and hope i dont have too many left over parts LOL!!!
          98 Chevy Astro AWD

          1969 Cadillac Deville

          2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

          '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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          • #6
            nice.....
            My 2007 Ford F350 Work Log located HERE

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            • #7
              been a while since i posted wow time flies!!!

              well the 2500 wound up being 3, the motor is giving me greif, and its still mostly 'parts' heheh

              pics of some of the stuff i got done:

              since im converting to serpentine belts instead of crusty V belts, the first pulley that needed to be done is the crank pulley. used a small block chevy pulley and had a machine shop cut the center hole out for me, i used alumaloy to fill in the original 3 harmonic ballancer bolt holes, the machine shop then drilled 4 to match the hub:


              the second important pulley is the water pump pulley. since this spins clockwise, i had trouble finding a pulley that had grooves (bastardized a ford pulley) with these 2 pulleys lined up, the rest is a matter of making stand offs


              since NONE of the original motor brackets are being used, i basicly have to fabricate a whole new system of mounting everything to the motor. learned a nice method that drag racers and nascar use: build a motor plate that bolts to the front, then mount everything to that. heres the first draft template that since then has been tweeked a little but still isnt done:


              i still have LOTS of pictures to upload from my phone to the pc then to photobucket. but since that last pic, ive taken the wood panel template, converted it to polycarbonate and drilled all the drill guide holes to convert the poly template to the final 1/4" T6 6061 aluminum sheet.

              i know this is a car pc forum, but this is a whole wheel up mod LOL, cant put the pc in untill i get the power working, cant get the power working untill i get the engine working, cant get the engine working till i get the belts spinning, cant get the belts spinning till i get the paint done.... and so on and on... BAH

              what started as a "oh ill just give it a tune up, drive and enjoy it as it is" turned into an almost 20G investment ~_~ but as far as i know, itll be the oldest car with a computer in it
              98 Chevy Astro AWD

              1969 Cadillac Deville

              2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

              '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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              • #8
                Looking good!
                HARDWARE: Fujitsu Stylistic ST5111w/WiFi and dock, internal Hitachi 500G HD, external 1TB HD, Sierra Wireless Aircard 550, DVD-RW, BoomzBox HD radio, XM Commander, Delorme GPS, Saitek X-52 Pro joystick, BluSoleil Bluetooth, TPMS, FB, Elm327

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                • #9
                  looks like fun!
                  My OLD 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT:
                  "The Project That Never Ended, until it did"


                  next project? subaru brz
                  carpc undecided

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                  • #10
                    Would it be cheaper to buy one of those crate engines? I know, I know, not fun, etc. just asking, because that would be my first thought. I think a 400HP can go for 5K?

                    Good job, and keep posting, interesting stuff. Backup your picks though.
                    Worklogs: 08 Sequoia Platinum Carputer (In Progress!)
                    Skin: MetroSex on the Beach preview

                    07 Infiniti Fx35 (done!) & 06 Infiniti M35 (gone...)

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                    • #11
                      sadly they really dont make a "crate motor" for this thing as they havnt made the 472/500 cadillac motor for 30+ years. so every "new" one of these beasts is actually a rebuilt one so youre usually going to run into the same $$ tag ~_~ that and putting your own name on something youre driving around fluffs the ego just a bit

                      i have so many links tied to my photobucket account that i couldnt just delete the original album, and the original one was kinda messed up so i made a new one:

                      http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll195/minddrive_rs/DEVILLE%20RESTO%20PROJECT/

                      in another post you asked about brackets giz, here is one that i had to customize for the tensioner:



                      *edit* due to the technical nature of making a tensioner bracket like this, that picture is the rough cut, i then took the lower part and milled it true to the base so that it was 100% paralell between the top and the bottom. any slight variance will cause the belt to track slightly and at higher rpm's might even throw the belt off the pulley.


                      basicly i took the tensioner off a jeep cherokee, chopped it and welded it at the height i needed for it to line up with the power steering pump:

                      that is a piece of polycarbonate 1/4" im using as a template to make sure everything fits ok since T6 6061 aluminum is so expencive. as you can see, theres been quite a few modifications to the design once i went from the panelling to the poly carbonate. at first i was going to use the alternator like they used to be, adjust for a tighter belt but i just couldnt see using something new skool with old skool like that so i opted to go all out with the belt system.

                      the tensioner i have done is for the power steering and the ac compressor, and right now im designing another mounting plate for the tensioner that runs the 2 alternators and the water pump ::


                      in that last picture i found out i have serious clearance issues with the belt wrapping around the tensioner and running into the water pump pulley so i had to pull it off and reconfigure the location and the angle the belt is routed. now i think ive got a better routing system in that the belt will come over the top alternator wrap around the water pump, go in between the crank and water pump to the tensioner, back to the crank and then to the lower alternator and upto the top alternator.... yeah thats the ticket trust me, ive scratched a bald spot in my head trying to figure it out. the previous design that showed the tensioner mounted to the alternators was "flimsy" and seemed like it would allow the belt to pull and flex off the pulleys.

                      im using a $90 welder i picked up from harbor freight that has flux core wire (no gas wire welding) thats working pretty good. im still kinda new to wire feed welding as upposed to stick welding but im getting the hang of it

                      Giz... show me some good pictures of your engine compartment and the supercharger youre planning on putting on there, might be able to help ya out

                      REMEMBER:
                      fabricating custom stuff is NOT about failure!!! its about finding 10000 ways that dont work and better excuses to drink at 10am ^_^
                      Last edited by MindDrive; 09-09-2011, 05:27 PM.
                      98 Chevy Astro AWD

                      1969 Cadillac Deville

                      2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

                      '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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                      • #12
                        OH just wanted to add... junkyards are your FRIEND!!!! especially the ones you can go into and pick your own parts!!!! i suggest finding one near you, and if you have an automotive project your thinking about digging into that you havnt done before, goto the junkyard and practice on their "junk" if you break it, so what, its gonna get smashed anyway
                        98 Chevy Astro AWD

                        1969 Cadillac Deville

                        2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

                        '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MindDrive View Post
                          OH just wanted to add... junkyards are your FRIEND!!!! especially the ones you can go into and pick your own parts!!!! i suggest finding one near you, and if you have an automotive project your thinking about digging into that you havnt done before, goto the junkyard and practice on their "junk" if you break it, so what, its gonna get smashed anyway
                          Already doing this, too.
                          HARDWARE: Fujitsu Stylistic ST5111w/WiFi and dock, internal Hitachi 500G HD, external 1TB HD, Sierra Wireless Aircard 550, DVD-RW, BoomzBox HD radio, XM Commander, Delorme GPS, Saitek X-52 Pro joystick, BluSoleil Bluetooth, TPMS, FB, Elm327

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                          • #14
                            that's how my brother and i learned how to remove his cars door panels
                            My OLD 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT:
                            "The Project That Never Ended, until it did"


                            next project? subaru brz
                            carpc undecided

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                            • #15
                              junkyards:
                              "toys R us" for gearheads and mod'rs
                              98 Chevy Astro AWD

                              1969 Cadillac Deville

                              2009 HHR LS.... DEAD PROJECT!!

                              '97 Seville STS - SOLD ~_~

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