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  • HiJackZX1 UAMCB (Urban Assult Mobile Command Base) ft. The Tobiathin Core.

    My goal with the whole Car PC venture was to build a solution that was filled with entertainment and mobile applications. Originally I wanted to go a full PC route, but the fact of the matter is the Car PC format is changing (dying). Having a PC setup is almost silly when you think about it, all though mine uses one for certain tasks. The standard user doesn't need it. They are big, filled with cables, and usually have to have everything done from scratch to work, and most of the time it doesnt work correctly.

    Android/iPhone devices are built to be mobile. In the past though, they were limited by speed and connections. With the release of Android 3.0 and up, that hurdle has been destroyed and I have decided to take advantage of it.

    I introduce to you the new and improved Tobiathin Core, which consists of the following:

    1x Ainol Novo 7 Flame Android 4.0 Tablet
    1x SainSmart SS808 (MK808) Mini PC Android 4.1
    6x Android 4 Mini PC MK802
    1x Lilliput
    1x MTSVO-SC K301,
    4x VM70 screens
    1x Eonon 19in
    7x SANOXY HDMI to VGA and Audio Converter
    1x C2G / Cables to Go 52065 Audio Crossplay
    1x USB OBD2
    1x Premium HDMI 2 Ports Mini Switch
    6x IOGEAR MiniView Extreme Multimedia KVMP Switch
    6x Mini-Pac Keyboard Emulators (for KVMP hotkey switching)
    6x iPazzPort Mini Keyboard/Touch Pad/Mouse Combo (replaces passenger touchscreens)
    6x Mini Amps for headphone jacks
    1x Zotac GF9300-G-E Mobo
    1x INTEL C2D E8200
    2x 2GB RAM Sticks
    1x OCZ Vertex 2 SSD
    1x ASUS Xonar DX 7.1
    1x Pheonix SOHO Echo cancellation card
    2x Powered VGA splitters
    1X USB Relay
    1x Stereo Mic
    1x BT Dongle
    2x 400 watt Amps
    1x 1500 watt Amp
    1x Kicker Subwoofer
    1x Battery

    Im sure I am leaving off one or two things, but this is most of it. In the next post I will explain how it all works.
    Last edited by HiJackZX1; 01-12-2013, 03:58 PM.
    Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

    1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
    4X MK808b
    3x Perixx Touchpads
    3x 7 inch Screens
    1X 7 inch motorized Screen
    1x Win 7 PC

  • #2
    Definitely following!
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    • #3
      So the big question is, will the MK802, MK808, work with a touch screen? As we know, most Android devices use a multi-touch screen. Problem is most of us have VGA 4-wire touch screens. My car has six of them and I refuse to flush that money down the toilet. So I asked the almighty Google for help. It gave me this: http://source.android.com/tech/input/touch-devices.html. So from reading it, Android has the drivers built in.

      So I got the unit home, plugged it up to my HDTV, plugged in the touch screen. I waited and suddenly saw a mouse cursor pop up on the screen. I took a deep breath and slowly moved my finger across the surface. Guess what happened! The cursor moved with my finger. So now anyone can have a Car PC for $50.00! BWWHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, but wait, something isnt right. I touch left, it goes left. I touch right, it goes right. I touch up, it goes down.... WTF. I touch down, it goes up.... Oh h3ll no. Always has to be something.

      So now I have posted in the XGA forums for help. They say there is a calibration file in Android. Maybe I can change a configuration file. I am sure this is a hurdle that is easy to get over. I mean h3ll, at least it worked at all. This si the first time an assumption has worked out for me. God knows with the PC install, I was always hitting major walls.

      I want to add that the device has to be Android 3.0 and up, and have USB Host Debugging.
      Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

      1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
      4X MK808b
      3x Perixx Touchpads
      3x 7 inch Screens
      1X 7 inch motorized Screen
      1x Win 7 PC

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      • #4
        Awesome stuff. Do you know if the MK808 supports bluetooth dongle on the USB host port?

        Either way, I have to disagree with a car computer for $50. One does need a display
        03 Cadillac CTS
        ZOTAC G43ITX-A-E 2.5ghz Core i3 2GB 160GB SSD
        Win7 Ultimate - OpenMobile - Directed HD - Wifi
        OMMaps + MS GPS Puck - WiFi via LTE Android phone
        2 Zones - Matrix Orbital LCD - Arduino - Build Pics

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jmullan99 View Post
          Awesome stuff. Do you know if the MK808 supports bluetooth dongle on the USB host port?

          Either way, I have to disagree with a car computer for $50. One does need a display
          I know, I was being silly. But it is close. I have seen tables that go for about $50.00. They run Gingerbread, which in my opinion is useless. They have run ICS or JB to be useful in the car.

          ---------------------

          I also wanted to list another issue I am having. I can not get my Lilliput to work on this setup. All it shows is a single color. I think maybe the resolution is way to high, problem is I can seem to get it down. Even when I set it to 480P it sat weird, but I could see it. Whats worse is now I dont have the option to adjust the definition because I messed up the device and reflashed with their latest ROM. The ROM added a lot of features, but also took some. These devices come rooted, so I'm very nervous. One wrong program and the thing is useless until you reflash.
          Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

          1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
          4X MK808b
          3x Perixx Touchpads
          3x 7 inch Screens
          1X 7 inch motorized Screen
          1x Win 7 PC

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          • #6
            Sub'd for another epic thread...

            Hope it finally just all "works" for ya one of these times.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jmullan99 View Post
              Awesome stuff. Do you know if the MK808 supports bluetooth dongle on the USB host port?

              Either way, I have to disagree with a car computer for $50. One does need a display
              OMG, I ignored the your question. Bluetooth functionality is lacking and it doesn’t have support for connected bluetooth dongles as well, so that means you can’t use your PS3 sixaxis controller on it, yet, or hook it up with bluetooth stereo. I hope that doesnt mean that it doesnt have USB Host Debugging. If yes, then I cant use a USB Hub and other devices.

              I got that from a review of the device.

              Originally posted by detlion1643 View Post
              Sub'd for another epic thread...

              Hope it finally just all "works" for ya one of these times.
              It will, Android was made for this.
              Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

              1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
              4X MK808b
              3x Perixx Touchpads
              3x 7 inch Screens
              1X 7 inch motorized Screen
              1x Win 7 PC

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              • #8
                Android will work for what you want; on the other hand, some of us have other needs, which Android doesn't handle as yet. I'll post my planned build elsewhere in the forums so you'll understand where I'm coming from.

                daywalker03

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
                  I also wanted to list another issue I am having. I can not get my Lilliput to work on this setup. All it shows is a single color. I think maybe the resolution is way to high, problem is I can seem to get it down. Even when I set it to 480P it sat weird, but I could see it. Whats worse is now I dont have the option to adjust the definition because I messed up the device and reflashed with their latest ROM. The ROM added a lot of features, but also took some. These devices come rooted, so I'm very nervous. One wrong program and the thing is useless until you reflash.
                  Hmmmm. Is the Lilliput native HDMI? Bad cable? Do you have a regular TV with HDMI that you can test on?
                  03 Cadillac CTS
                  ZOTAC G43ITX-A-E 2.5ghz Core i3 2GB 160GB SSD
                  Win7 Ultimate - OpenMobile - Directed HD - Wifi
                  OMMaps + MS GPS Puck - WiFi via LTE Android phone
                  2 Zones - Matrix Orbital LCD - Arduino - Build Pics

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by daywalker03 View Post
                    Android will work for what you want; on the other hand, some of us have other needs, which Android doesn't handle as yet. I'll post my planned build elsewhere in the forums so you'll understand where I'm coming from.

                    daywalker03
                    What feature are you looking to do? I mean my install has to do a lot. Mind you, its only for multimedia, so I dont need to control things with it. All though I did see they have things to control the Arduino thingy.

                    Originally posted by jmullan99 View Post
                    Hmmmm. Is the Lilliput native HDMI? Bad cable? Do you have a regular TV with HDMI that you can test on?
                    I think what is happening is the MK802 is putting out a really high resolution. I connected it to my VGA PC screen and it says "Out of range". The Car PC screen just gets iffy and turns a color. I am praying I find a solution for this.

                    As for the other issue, the touchscreen inputs being inverted for up and down. Cant I just take apart the screen and flip two wires?
                    Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                    1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                    4X MK808b
                    3x Perixx Touchpads
                    3x 7 inch Screens
                    1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                    1x Win 7 PC

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      EDIT: OMFG, I take it back! They work. I decided to take a VM70 and set the MK802 to 480p and it worked. I see it perfectly. So that means its most likely the [email protected] Lilliput unit. I could just be this Lilliput is dead. I'll try the one in my car tomorrow.

                      EDIT EDIT: But the touch screen on the VM70 is non responsive at all, and thats testing with 2 units, both in working order. I think maybe I driver will have to be created.
                      Last edited by HiJackZX1; 10-03-2012, 08:45 PM.
                      Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                      1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                      4X MK808b
                      3x Perixx Touchpads
                      3x 7 inch Screens
                      1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                      1x Win 7 PC

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        For my purposes, Android doesn't support the range of applications I need. I am an Amateur Radio operator, and plan to use the CarPC in support of emergemcy communications in addition to In Car Entertainment. I will be m0nitorimg two different two way radios, at least one digital voice stream via the Internet, and my cellphone via Bluetooth.

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                        • #13
                          There is a file you need to copy for the resistive touchscreens to work. If you use capacitive touchscreens this is not an issue since they don't need calibrated. I had to do this on android x86 and i will say resistive screens suck if they are used as your main screen with android.

                          I'm not sure what it is on native android but this is what i did for android x86

                          https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...A/ZYVRSaIGx5wJ
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Deric View Post
                            There is a file you need to copy for the resistive touchscreens to work. If you use capacitive touchscreens this is not an issue since they don't need calibrated. I had to do this on android x86 and i will say resistive screens suck if they are used as your main screen with android.
                            What he said. I was going to mention driver as well.
                            03 Cadillac CTS
                            ZOTAC G43ITX-A-E 2.5ghz Core i3 2GB 160GB SSD
                            Win7 Ultimate - OpenMobile - Directed HD - Wifi
                            OMMaps + MS GPS Puck - WiFi via LTE Android phone
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by daywalker03 View Post
                              For my purposes, Android doesn't support the range of applications I need. I am an Amateur Radio operator, and plan to use the CarPC in support of emergemcy communications in addition to In Car Entertainment. I will be m0nitorimg two different two way radios, at least one digital voice stream via the Internet, and my cellphone via Bluetooth.
                              Well I still have the Car PC. It does the audio processing and BT headset emulation. Also still controls everything that turns on/off, ans other things.

                              Originally posted by Deric View Post
                              There is a file you need to copy for the resistive touchscreens to work. If you use capacitive touchscreens this is not an issue since they don't need calibrated. I had to do this on android x86 and i will say resistive screens suck if they are used as your main screen with android.

                              I'm not sure what it is on native android but this is what i did for android x86

                              https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...A/ZYVRSaIGx5wJ
                              Well I have a old tablet that wasnt multi-touch and I think its ok. Mind you games and stuff will suck. The drivers screen will be capacitive, since its a tablet. You think I can do a retro fit. Put capacitive on all? But still use the screens?

                              Originally posted by jmullan99 View Post
                              What he said. I was going to mention driver as well.
                              So I ask again, hoping you all say yes, can I upgrade the touch panels but still use the screens?
                              Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                              1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                              4X MK808b
                              3x Perixx Touchpads
                              3x 7 inch Screens
                              1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                              1x Win 7 PC

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