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  • Phase 2 Peugeot 306 Install

    The car:



    The Reasons:


    * Sat Nav
    * MP3 music collection/playlists
    * Vids when parked up etc
    * Because I can


    Done:

    * Run VGA/USB extension cables from dash to boot -

    In Progress:

    * Run Power Cables from battery to boot into fused splitter. - Wiring on order, waiting on info about M1-atx before buying
    * Boot install, with space for amp and easy access to Pc etc - 30% done.. box made, waiting on carpet and pc fans.

    Not started:

    * Temp. install screen with standard bracket
    * Amplifier install, mounted to PC casing.
    * Reverse camera install
    * GPS Mouse etc install
    * Proper dash mounted screen install
    * Adapt steering wheel volume controls to work with CarPC


    Probably more that I will add as when I think of it.

    Aims and future ideas:

    I want it to look discreet, OEM, standard.. not easily nicked etc. I don't want to lose too much boot space or make any major modifications to the car, as I am designing the system to be easily removed when I come to sell the car. Future upgrades are endless really, so many things that could be adapted to work in a car etc. For now my aim is to get a working system installed with a clean boot install and a simple bracket mounted monitor.. then from there it's time to improve it and mould the screen into the dash.

    I will update here as and when I do things, but all info + more will also be on my website (when I get round to making it )

    www.306carputer.co.uk
    Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

    VGA/USB Leads - DONE
    Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
    Screen - Not started
    Boot - 40%
    Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

    Overall Progress = 30%

    www.306carputer.co.uk

  • #2
    *** UPDATE ***

    Friday 12/08/05 - Cable running...

    I started the install today, the easy stuff first

    Yesterday morning I ordered 2 x USB extension leads + 1 VGA extension lead, both bought from ebay, I was pretty suprised to see them turn up this morning... very quick service!!

    So, rear seats up, cables ran under rear seat, all the way down the left hand side door sill area. No pictures of this, pretty mundane boring stuff. But got to be done.

    Very easy to do really, just move the rear seat up, pull the door rubber seal thing away and you can slide the cables underneath.. between the front and rear doors is a plastic guard thing for the seat belt. Just slide the front passenger seat forwards, undo the two bolts on the plastic guard thing (torx) and pull the guard away slightly, you can run the cables under the carpet from the rear seats all the way down to the dash... to get the cables down past the carpet on the front passenger seat, just do the same as the rear.. pull the seal up and feed the cable down and press it all back. Making sure the seal sits properly with the carpet under it etc.

    No idea if it's standard, but under the passenger side dash there was already a hole in the carpet, so just run the cables through the hole into the under-dash area, cable tied to the other cables to keep them out of the way, all discreet.. can't see the cables anywhere other than the boot... all doors/seats move/open perfectly fine.. you don't even notice the cables are there and the USB connections are then nicely hidden under the dash out of view/harms way!!!

    Next step(s); run power cables/speaker cables and start the boot install!

    Updates coming soon 8)
    Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

    VGA/USB Leads - DONE
    Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
    Screen - Not started
    Boot - 40%
    Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

    Overall Progress = 30%

    www.306carputer.co.uk

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    • #3
      *** UPDATE ***

      Saturday 13/08/05 - Boot install..

      So, decided to get on with the boot install this weekend... popped over to B&Q to pick up some materials and a few tools.. Not forgetting some MDF and plenty of advice from my dad.

      Now.. A few things I will say before people take the **** out of my boot install.

      1) I've never so much as owned a peice of MDF in my life let alone cut one and made something out of it

      2) The only woodworking tools I have are a new saw bought from B&Q and just some boxes to lean the wood on when cutting! No profressional workshop here I am an electrician.. we don't cut wood!!!

      3) The boot install MUST be easily removed, the whole system must be easily removed... but look as standard as possible.. so I had to design the casing for the PC to look "okay" in the boot, not take up much space, be STABLE and easy to remove when required.

      and lastly 4) The Peugeot 306 boot isn't really all that ideal :?

      Anyway... I didn't really bother taking pics as I went along, thought it'd be a bit boring so just showing you the progress pics...

      I started off with two sheets of MDF and 3 lengths of 2x2 and 10 fingers.


      Made cardboard templates of the left side of boot where this case is to sit, lots of tape measuring and cutting later I end up with the main frame and door and only 9.5 fingers




      Cut my thumb with hacksaw.. just slipped! Thank god it wasn't the big 22" wood saw :shock: It's cut from the edge of thumb through to the nail (that's quite deep :P ) But I just wrapped it up in a towel and carried on, albeit with 1 hand (it's hard to cut wood with 1 hand!)

      The inner board is where the MOBO will be fitted. I hope to god it's wide enough.. I think I cocked the sizing up and have a feeling the PCI cards will hit the door but can only wait till I get the mobo and cards to find out :cry: I have a way around it if it comes to it though.

      Anyway, here it is with the door placed on.. not fixed yet as I've just sprayed it black.



      It's being carpeted.. but I sprayed the insides black just so it looks a bit better when you open the door also sprayed outside black as I was bored!

      Will post pictures of it painted and in the car tomorow! It doesn't look tooo bad if I say so myself. by the time it's all carpeted up it should be quite good. Not bad for first ever carpentry though!

      Once all carpeted up, it will have 2 PC fans on the top face with metal fan guards, the amplifier will be attached to the door (outside of it)

      Let me know what you think so far!!

      Pics of it in the boot coming tomorow... Next up is the temporary monitor install and getting the whole system running and reliable
      Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

      VGA/USB Leads - DONE
      Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
      Screen - Not started
      Boot - 40%
      Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

      Overall Progress = 30%

      www.306carputer.co.uk

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      • #4
        Looking good so far .... I agree the Pug boot isn't the easiest to work with ... looks like you have a good box so far, can't wait to see the finished product.

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        • #5
          Here it is fitted to the car.

          Some points to make.. it looks a bit rough at the moment but once it's all carpeted up and a few things revised it should look a lot better.. the door DOES shut properly without the push-latch on, I need to adjust the latch so that the door closes properly.

          All in all so far I'm quite pleased with how it's turning out, it's not the best ever but it's the first time I've ever made anything out of wood and it all fits nicely/stable etc so I'm proud so far but of course the next revisions and maybe boot install take 2 will be a lot better




          Will post the updated pics when my fans/guards turn up and when I find some carpet that matches my boot
          Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

          VGA/USB Leads - DONE
          Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
          Screen - Not started
          Boot - 40%
          Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

          Overall Progress = 30%

          www.306carputer.co.uk

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          • #6
            I think that it is very impressive for a first time around and I would be happy to take the box off your hands should/when you move to phase 2. As for the pics, the rear left speaker looks like it gets in the way of the box, but I am sure you accounted for that...good work.
            2005 Black Chevy Impala
            Current Status: Installed in Vehicle/Testing 75%

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            • #7
              The link doesn't work...
              Renault Megane...the OEM look

              The Lost in Europe Ford Escort

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              • #8
                holy ****. you have only had tha car for a week and you are past my isntall stage!

                ****!

                Oh but you havent started on the dash yet - good luck with that!

                did you end up using a 3m VGA? looks like you did as mine has about that much left after going all the way into the dash. What are you doing about the power wires? If you are running your Power wires up the right side you can thread them through the rear frame nicely. Dont forget there is a load of space in the rear frame with a large cubby hole on the left by your PC and if you put the jack in a waterproof bag you can mount it in your spare wheel and get some more space on the right hand side.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shelbrain
                  I think that it is very impressive for a first time around and I would be happy to take the box off your hands should/when you move to phase 2. As for the pics, the rear left speaker looks like it gets in the way of the box, but I am sure you accounted for that...good work.
                  When the parcel shelf is down the speaker clears it fine I did wonder if it'd hit but after some cardboard template testing it clears fine. The cables all move fine when you open/close the boot too so nothing catches/hits
                  Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

                  VGA/USB Leads - DONE
                  Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
                  Screen - Not started
                  Boot - 40%
                  Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

                  Overall Progress = 30%

                  www.306carputer.co.uk

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cris
                    The link doesn't work...
                    The website isn't up yet, haven't got around to it Will post all the progress info on here until I sort the website.
                    Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

                    VGA/USB Leads - DONE
                    Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
                    Screen - Not started
                    Boot - 40%
                    Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

                    Overall Progress = 30%

                    www.306carputer.co.uk

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scouse Monkey
                      holy ****. you have only had tha car for a week and you are past my isntall stage!

                      ****!
                      I was bored and decided just to get on with what I can get on with.. might take a bit longer to buy the computer itself though, spent far too much money lately.. but now the case is in I just want it all working so might just buy the stuff anyway

                      Originally posted by Scouse Monkey
                      Oh but you havent started on the dash yet - good luck with that!
                      I'm going to temporarily mount the screen using the standard bracket thing just to get it all in and working, and to adjust the computer/software for driving etc.. once it's all working fine I'll think about the in-dash stuff..

                      Haven't really looked at the dash yet but if I can get the heating controls to either move up 2 inches or down 2 inches then there should be enough room to mount the screen. Just depends how much modding the heater controls need as I don't fancy breaking them really.

                      Originally posted by Scouse Monkey
                      did you end up using a 3m VGA? looks like you did as mine has about that much left after going all the way into the dash. What are you doing about the power wires? If you are running your Power wires up the right side you can thread them through the rear frame nicely. Dont forget there is a load of space in the rear frame with a large cubby hole on the left by your PC and if you put the jack in a waterproof bag you can mount it in your spare wheel and get some more space on the right hand side.
                      Yep I went for 3M on your advice and was glad, as it's just about the perfect length really. I've got the cable running down the left side.. under the rear seat, down the left side door sills, past the middle seat belt cover thing and up under the passenger side of dash. It hides the connections perfectly and the screens own USB lead will then go through the back of the center dash under the left side dash to connect up.. the holes are already there, no modifications or cutting was quite suprised how easy it was really.




                      They are completely hidden by the panel

                      Power wise. Well I felt a bit stupid for running the VGA and USB but not the power. Seemed a bit silly but after actually running the USB etc there's not much room left so I think I'm going to run the power under the rear seat (middle) and through the center console (hand brake place) and then through the dash.. either that or downt he right hand side door sills.. not really sure how to get from the inside of car to under the bonet yet though.. need to get a haynes manual really and check it out, as I'm not a mechanic, in fact I'm useless with vehicle mechanics haha

                      Anyway.. the power will lead into a fused junction box to split off power leads for the PC and for the amplifier. I'm a bit lost as to where I wire this into the ignition though so that the amp and pc come on with the ignition.. was wondering if it'd just connect up to the HU power leads??? as that'll already be wired to the ignition???

                      I know how to build a computer but am still learning lots with this CarPC stuff.. just taking it one step at a time and will see how it goes Got lots of plans for future additions to the system but for now just gotta get it up and running.
                      Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

                      VGA/USB Leads - DONE
                      Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
                      Screen - Not started
                      Boot - 40%
                      Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

                      Overall Progress = 30%

                      www.306carputer.co.uk

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                      • #12
                        I now have the PC.

                        1.4ghz Duron (AMD), Not the fastest ever but should be pefect for this application.

                        Got to get RAM etc, think I got a Hard Drive laying around though!



                        So.. just need an Opus 150W and screen now!!! 8)

                        <EDIT>

                        Update... just ordered carpet (hope it's a good colour match!) two fans + grills, amp wiring kit for power.

                        So just now need an M1-ATX, power dist block and screen to get everything running!!!!

                        Still deciding on sat nav software, really want Mobile Impact as front end but for some reason keeps crashing on my PC Probably will use Destinator with Free Drive for sat nav.
                        Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

                        VGA/USB Leads - DONE
                        Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
                        Screen - Not started
                        Boot - 40%
                        Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

                        Overall Progress = 30%

                        www.306carputer.co.uk

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                        • #13
                          *** UPDATE ***

                          Saturday 28/08/05 - Boot install pretty much finished.....

                          Well well well.. been a long time since last update, I've been mostly waiting for things to turn up, like carpet, which I had to go to about 3 different shops, then order TWICE off the net just to get the right bloody colour!!!

                          Finally found something on ebay, won for 5.51 + postage and I received a massive roll of good quality carpet that matches pretty damn well!

                          So the case got carpeted up, I've fitted 2 x 80mm case fans to the side with shiney chrome fan grills.

                          I've mounted the PC inside the case and used a HDD mount from an old case to house the hdd. I've mounted this vertically as apparantly the HDD will last longer in the car or something.

                          The only thing is I need to move the mobo to the right side of case and the HDD to the left. It's akward the way it is with cables etc not reaching properly etc.

                          So here we have it, a 90% finished boot install. It's not the best but I like it and am happy with how it's turned out for my first ever time making anything. I do have plans for boot install take 2 but that'll cost a lot more as I'd need a mini ITX pc this will have to do for now!

                          Hope you like it, let me know what you think.

                          p.s the door isn't on yet I know. I'm (hopefully) mounting the amplifier (JBL 4/3/2 wiith any luck!) onto the outside of the door, this should keep it compact and looking cool. Once this lot is installed I plan to get a JBL tube subwoofer for the other side of the boot





                          Next job is to get the power wiring in. Which I hope to do today/tomorow (well most of the wiring anyway) I think I'm going to run the main power, remote and speaker cables down the left side door sill and then run the single lead for the screen (ITX combined power/usb/vga lead for the ITX Plus) and a single USB extension down the right side door sill.

                          I can't afford the screen yet so just got to wait a week or two before finalising the install. I was hoping to have it all running before 13th Sept as I have a 300 mile trip to do and fancied sat nav but I'm not sure it's going to happen!

                          I have D3 maps, Mobilie Impact front end and FreeDrive.. can't get any of it to instlal though until I get this carpc running.. I think the HDD is fooked as it won't boot
                          Phase II Peugeot 306 GLX TD

                          VGA/USB Leads - DONE
                          Power - Wiring ordered, waiting on info about M1-ATX
                          Screen - Not started
                          Boot - 40%
                          Hardware - 35% - 1.4ghz Duron, 20gig hdd (for now! )

                          Overall Progress = 30%

                          www.306carputer.co.uk

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                          • #14
                            nice effort. you must be working overtime on this one... It's coming alond real nice...

                            good job... Can't wait for it to be finished...

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                            • #15
                              sweet.

                              i got some work to do

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