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    A google search turned this up. Seems like a much much cheaper alternative to the Guru, but don't really want to be the first guinea pig for $900. Although for $900 it's probably more hardware than I can round up on my own. Site is a little on the shady site as well.

    Maybe we could find the makers of this, get them to send you a demo for review, and then you could start carrying it if it's worth the price. I'll be the first customer as long as the sound quality isn't completely terrible or I can at least swap out the amp fairly easily.

    http://chinagrabber.com/double-din-7...r-pc-2270.aspx

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    Thanks for the suggestion. We will see what we can do about getting a sample for a forum review.
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    • #3
      Cool. Keep me updated.

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      • #4
        Do you guys have a problem with me posting this link in other forum sections to see if anyone has tried it already?

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        • #5
          I've always wondered about those units too, but I would definitely be careful...

          My cousin bought one of that site's in-dash DVD/Nav systems for around $275-$300 and it came with zero support or documentation whatsoever. It worked okay for about a month, and then the touch screen stopped working properly after that. Now it will only recognize the "hot corners" and the "gestures" to move from one screen to another, none of the regular on-screen buttons are recognized by the touch interface. So, he's stuck using the buttons on the bottom of the screen and on the remote control to control the unit... It gives him access to about 75% of the features, but Nav is all but useless because he can't enter any addresses. On top of that, a very limited selection of USB flash drives and SD cards are recognized by the unit, and all are limited to either 2GB or 4GB, so u can't have your entire media collection.

          As far as the PC goes, I wouldn't expect all the drivers and software to be loaded as they show in the pictures. It may not even come with Windows XP for that price.
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          • #6
            Very true. Yeah I am in the camp it's better to spend the money and do it right the first time. It's too bad there isn't a real brand out there like Alpine, Clarion, Pioneer, etc that could make something like this running Win7 mobile or Android.
            The problem is the cost. The hardware isn't cheap, and neither is all the hours of coding and validating that would need to be done.
            Making my own would be a lot of fun, just not sure I have the time.

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            • #7
              Ewwww....ITPS as the power supply! Run! Run away! Run faster!!!!!
              Originally posted by ghettocruzer
              I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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              • #8
                lolo, I just brought this up in the infill G$ forum.

                But that unit is a bit high for he going rates right now.

                - Universal 2Din is running mid $600 and up.
                - Some of the manufacturers are talking OEM products that can be made to order.
                - Anything under $500 seems to be CE orientated.

                At the moment, I'm still playing with a few ideas regarding Chinese units.

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                • #9
                  ill give you a warning based on a sample I received a few months ago (samples are supposed to have extra quality control since their what companies base orders off of). These are absolute crap....its a 1Ghz celeron M processor that they list as a faster processor with some distributors (even though its not). I had a button fall out after just an hour of testing, the radio is separate and not at all controllable from the PC and worst of all the amp distorts if you go past about 50%. I was honestly surprised the thing didn't catch on fire while testing... Notice windows 2003 is the newest operating system they advertise..it was barely released when these things were designed.

                  edit:
                  As a side note-if you do want to take the risk...wholesale price is $480/unit Q:3 units
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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I had already decided against it, but that pretty much seals the deal. I looked at the Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT at Fry's the other night, and it was a very nice unit. Obviously missing the PC part of things but the NAV and music interface was worthy of putting in my Protege. I was actually surprised at how low resolution and slow the interfaces for most of the cheaper double DIN head units are. Some of the cheaper ones were frustratingly so.
                    I think what I want more than anything is Pandora in my car. The cheapest way to do that is just get a single DIN Pioneer with AVRCP and start paying $30/mo for an data plan on my phone. Then just use the extra DIN slot for analog gauges.

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                    • #11
                      jsutchat,
                      Did you buy the unit(s)?

                      I was thinking that maybe if we worked with the manufacturers that just maybe they would try a little harder to produce units closer to the infill in quality. (lolo, hour-glass is not cool)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SapporoGuy View Post
                        jsutchat,
                        Did you buy the unit(s)?

                        I was thinking that maybe if we worked with the manufacturers that just maybe they would try a little harder to produce units closer to the infill in quality. (lolo, hour-glass is not cool)
                        After that...no-I was happy to ship it back lol

                        There are plenty of companies that will produce a good product given a proper design and a contractual quality agreement. You just wont find something like that done for a hobbyist community of 20people (they sell units by the 100s).
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                        • #13
                          With the rate of infill G4s hour-glassing I'd imagine you'd have 20 units sold

                          More seriously though, one of the reasons I keep posting here is trying to find a solution that would put a carpc in more people's possession. A 2din unit along the lines of G4 and a decent price point under a J-type 2din navi unit would be a major score.

                          I figure that here alone crappy 2din ce based units move at 3-6 units / day at about $200-$300. Margins are going to be low.

                          So, I figure that 3-6 units at $600-700 would be reasonable per month. lolo, even evil-bay could pump those numbers.

                          Tie this in with extras, this could turn into something a little more than a hobby. Maybe not a full time job but something that could definitely supplement your income.

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                          • #14
                            again, though, the biggest problem is support..

                            as you said, the volume would not be enough to become a full time job, but who will support the product when it gets a virus, hdd crashes, etc..

                            no matter who brings a all-in-one product to market, i just don't see enough volume to work the way that they need to.

                            tinkerers, and tweakers like most of us here are going to have less of a problem with setting up and maintaining a unit like that, but general users that "want a computer in their car" are going to be left with a expensive paperweight...

                            how many non-computer savy people have you run into with your carpc setup that want it, and would buy it--even if it was $5,000-- but would have no clue what to do when there is a error?

                            and how would support be handled? i imagine you would probably need to send the whole unit in for repair--and assuming that you have other repairs, it could take up to a month for me to get the unit back...

                            for me, that is nowhere near acceptable for a unit that cost me $5,000..(when i could get a $2,000 nav hu) but that is the cost of the low volume i guess...

                            don't get me wrong, i understand that some people have great software skills, but are horrible with setting up all the hardware-- for these people, a all-in-one solution is great--because once you get the unit, most of the errors would probably be software..

                            but i feel that most of the people that would buy a all-in-one unit would have very limited knowledge of computers beyond using it to download music, facebook, and email... even to try to get them just to change the display resolution could be a chore...

                            sapporoguy-- i realize my comments can seem a little harsh, none of it is directed at you, or anyone else--just my take on the sad state of all-in-ones..

                            i think the all-in-one units could really get a lot of new people into the hobby because it would become a lot easier to get a computer into the car(i have run across my fair share of new members here that are looking for something that doesn't take up anything more then a dd space in the dash), but without a decent support structure behind a decent product, and careful product engineering, i just don't see them becoming any more then a repeat of the g4..
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SapporoGuy View Post
                              With the rate of infill G4s hour-glassing I'd imagine you'd have 20 units sold

                              More seriously though, one of the reasons I keep posting here is trying to find a solution that would put a carpc in more people's possession. A 2din unit along the lines of G4 and a decent price point under a J-type 2din navi unit would be a major score.

                              I figure that here alone crappy 2din ce based units move at 3-6 units / day at about $200-$300. Margins are going to be low.

                              So, I figure that 3-6 units at $600-700 would be reasonable per month. lolo, even evil-bay could pump those numbers.

                              Tie this in with extras, this could turn into something a little more than a hobby. Maybe not a full time job but something that could definitely supplement your income.
                              To put it mildly...i'm not sure you realize just how much work it takes to get one of those devices to market. Even at 2K per unit those 10/month wouldn't be able to pay minimum wage for the design time required.
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