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    would be awesome to be able to get a key

    i have got hold of the 3.4 GB image build iso from Microsoft, but the key that make it run after 30 days are DAMM hard to get if possible at all

    i know there are tricks to get the same features in a normal win7, but i want the legal way.. and a license is only about 100$ if and when you can get it...
    Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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    so far 29 have read... what thoughts have there been?
    Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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    • #3
      From what I understand, this is just something you order from microsoft - you have to call them to place an order and I don't know if there's a minimun order quantity. I also do not know if they require you to buy the embbeded tools before you can order any keys. At least this is how was done for one of the companies I worked -- they used to buy many licenses for XP embedded which is very similar licensing I hear.
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      • #4
        you can't get keys from Microsoft but one of their partners, also you have to apply first, ie fill out a agreement form and microsoft has to countersign etc. if they do you can then order the keys from their partner, if they do not countersign then you are screwed...

        you dont need the toolkit as the iso they offer as a 7-8 part download has an image build wizzard that does plenty fine for a car pc install, so you will only need the keys.

        of course one could monkey arround with a normal win7 to get the embedded features in there or at least the features we need, but it's just not the right way to do it and the keys for embedded is about 100$ if you can get one the legit way :-D
        Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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        • #5
          no one thinks this would be great in the store?
          Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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          • #6
            I didn't really know that it existed..
            I like the option of install to SD card though.. That could save on the cost of an SSD
            And cheaper is always good..
            What differences are there between it and a full version that might affect a typical user in a negative way?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stretch4x4 View Post
              I didn't really know that it existed..
              I like the option of install to SD card though.. That could save on the cost of an SSD
              And cheaper is always good..
              What differences are there between it and a full version that might affect a typical user in a negative way?
              Same problem as WinCE 6.0....drivers, only more so. Windows embedded 7 is the (more or less) successor to WinCE 6.0. I have tried it out on a Beagleboard and in a VM and it's got some advantages over WinCE, particularly in it's ability to handle hibernate and resume. But finding hardware drivers is even more difficult than with CE, because the rate and scope of adoption is just not there yet. Probably the best analogy is with XP and Win7 shortly after its release. Everything was supported on XP, and a good portion would run on 7, but not everything. Right now, if a piece of hardware is going to support CE/embedded at all, there will be a WinCE 6.0 driver. There is some WEC7 support, but not a lot.

              If you enjoy life out on the "bleeding edge" Windows Embedded 7 is a fine choice. If you prefer "fire and forget", I'd stick to WinCE.

              Mark

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              • #8
                That is strange the little bit of reading I did after I posted seemed to suggestion standard windows 7 drivers would work for windows embedded as well..
                I don't really have a need for CE so would just stick with typical windows 7 was just interested in the embedded version if it was going to be cheaper and potentially faster without too many draw backs over the typical OS.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stretch4x4 View Post
                  I didn't really know that it existed..
                  What differences are there between it and a full version that might affect a typical user in a negative way?
                  none... i have it running and you just install drivers as per normal win7....
                  Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VegasGuy View Post
                    . But finding hardware drivers is even more difficult than with CE,
                    not quite right, i was installing it and once at desktop i just installed my win7 drivers as normal

                    one warning thou... installing on a usb stick takes a hell not longer than on a normal hdd... but once you get everything done and are ready to activate horm its not an issue
                    Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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                    • #11
                      my experience is that the install will take about 1-2 hours since its so slow to install and run an os off usb.. so be prepared to spend at least a day...

                      once you have it all running like you want all there is to it is to activate horm:

                      (4) Enable hibernation
                      > powercfg.exe /h ON

                      (5) Disable false bootstat warnings
                      > bcdedit.exe /set {current} bootstatuspolicy ignoreallfailures

                      (6). Enable EWF on all partitions
                      > ewfmgr.exe /all /enable

                      (7) Restart to have the command take effect
                      > shutdown.exe /r /t 0

                      (8). Activate HORM
                      > ewfmgr.exe C: /activatehorm

                      (9). Capture the HORM state by hibernating the machine once
                      > shutdown.exe /h

                      (10) Resume the machine and start using HORM. At this point each restart should result in a resume from the state captured in the previous step

                      (11) If you wish to deactivate HORM
                      > ewfmgr.exe C: -deactivatehorm

                      (12) If you wish to disable ewf (disable HORM first)
                      > ewfmgr.exe /all /disable
                      followed by a restart
                      Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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                      • #12
                        yolu can get the eval version here: http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...ad-110476.html

                        without keys eval is 30 days...

                        from what i have discovered the license keys are about 95$ each... you just have to find a distributor that is willing to sell them
                        Blessed are the "cracked" for it is they who let in the light.

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                        • #13
                          Awesome, thanks for the information sounds like a very good way to go.
                          I have emailed my local distributor to see what they say.

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, i think we may be talking about slightly different products here. You're discussing Windows Embedded 7, which , as you say, (can be) a stripped down version of the standard Windows 7 for x86 platforms. I was speaking of Windows Embedded Compact 7 , which runs on x86 OR ARM processors and shares it's lineage with WinCE 6.0. Regular Windows 7 drivers DO NOT work with WEC7.

                            Sorry for the confusion this may have created in this thread.

                            Windows 7 Embedded + standard PC hardware = (potentially) smaller OS footprint and faster loads.
                            Windows Embedded Compact 7 + x86 or ARM hardware = (potentially) very small footprint instant on devices.

                            VegasGuy

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                            • #15
                              Ah that explains a lot
                              Yeah the compact would be good but as you point out too many complications for what is supposed to be a "simple" car computer (yeah right simple...)
                              However if a license for standard embedded could be found that could be very handy to speed up boots and reduce the cost.

                              Will have a look around a bit more for that one!

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