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  • 2 Optical Devices.... Need Processor!!!

    Alright guys...I have an Alpine head unit. It is the IVA-W300. It is capable of controlling the H701, but I have since found out that it is going to be a hassle to allow it to control my NON-Alpine devices. I currently have a Dish Network HDTV satellite receiver and a PC in my truck. I would like to have the dolby outputs on both to output in my vehicle. From what I can tell there is no processor that will work stand alone and I can plug any optical output into it and it output dolby digital. Do you guys have any suggestions or am I totally stuck?

  • #2
    Ummm...the H701 will work. It will accept up to 3 digital inputs (optical only) and you can switch between them. If you don't want to use the w300, you can use the RUX-c701 contoller to make it stand-alone.
    System always under construction


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    • #3
      How am I able to switch between inputs? I was told by Alpine if it wasn't an Alpine Ai-Net device it wouldn't even show the input as being available. Do you have anymore details?

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      • #4
        Not sure on your W300 device but they might be right about that. The RUX controller though allows you to select the digital inputs as well as the analog inputs in one of the menus. It's not a quick one button push kind of thing though.

        I'll check with my friend to see if his alpine HU will allow him to select different digital inputs on his h701. I think I recall him saying he couldn't.
        System always under construction


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        • #5
          Anyone else have any suggestions?

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          • #6
            I'm currently using the H701 + controller, and yes, it will take three inputs via toslink. However, switching between them is a pain ("setup" + "input setup" + scroll down to "digital (1, 2, or 3)" with volume knob + "enter" + "setup" + "setup" (to back out)). If anyone knows a quicker way, I'd be grateful.

            That, and if anyone knows a transparent, bit-perfect USB sound card that can ouput 44.1 over toslink, and when sat radio is active in RoadRunner, take input over toslink and pass thru to toslink out, without additional navigation of software menus besides selecting between "satellite" and "music" in RR, I'd be grateful.
            I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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            • #7
              There is a chaintech card that does bit perfect and it's cheap. Something like $20 or so. I don't know how well it will do this or if it's got toslink input
              take input over toslink and pass thru to toslink out, without additional navigation of software menus besides selecting between "satellite" and "music" in RR, I'd be grateful.
              Can you use girder to perform some of those actions? (I have not used girder myself so I don't know. Just suggesting it)
              System always under construction


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              • #8
                http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Optica.../dp/B000812QC6

                Always the down 'n dirty way..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jahntassa View Post
                  THAT WOULD LOOK SO COOOOOL ON MY DASH AND MY WIFE WOULD LOVE IT! [/sarcasm]

                  Yeah, I'm looking into AutoIT or AutoHotKey as we speak, but not much written about sound card control of this nature, believe it or not. I did some similar searching for a plugin to turn on/off my Audigy's spdif input via my tv's remote, never got anywhere with it...I'm an engineer, good at programming but I hate it. Normally, I look to software vendors and teh intarweb, but it looks like I'll have to buckle down on it.

                  Anyone have any experience w/ using the M-audio transit in this fashion? Much info about this card on this forum (searched) but seemingly no one is using my "dream" config.
                  I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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                  • #10
                    hithere, does your H701 work to switch the input without it being a alpine device? I am not worried about a few punches of buttons, I just want to make sure that it works. My main question is, Will it work with NON-Alpine devices and be able to switch between inputs (that means analog AND digital) with just the touch of a few buttons?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by williamn333 View Post
                      hithere, does your H701 work to switch the input without it being a alpine device? I am not worried about a few punches of buttons, I just want to make sure that it works. My main question is, Will it work with NON-Alpine devices and be able to switch between inputs (that means analog AND digital) with just the touch of a few buttons?

                      Yes, it will switch inputs just fine (I don't have any other alpine units)...it's just a pain to have to navigate a menu to do so. Currently, I run my factory head unit thru an LOC into the "analog in" on the H701, along with optical from the CarPC. I was hoping to use one other optical in for Sirius, but it's that much of a bother I'm using the "line input" of my soundcard...which introduces barely audible noise to the system when it's active, which leads me to aggrivation...because I'm anal about that sort of thing.

                      It would have been so easy, just a simple firmware change, to make the "channel" button switch between available inputs (the button is inactive when you're not navigating a sub-menu of some kind)...or to add another button (they spared no expense for the goofy bass processing "mx" button, which invokes another goofy menu)...or to save inputs with presets, or any other of a host of ways they could have made it work better, basically for free.

                      It's a shame when you pay $200+ for the dedicated controller, which has no CD transport, no flip-up face, no CD loading mechanism, no A/D converter of it's own, no laser pickup, nothing to justify the fact that it costs just as much as many full-fledged CD head units...just a display processor and a UI...and the most basic of functions is crippled for the sake of selling more head units. There's really no explanation other than that for the "oversight"....I don't believe there's another dedicated digital processor controller out there that doesn't perform this basic function in a freindly manner. It's like, job one of any basic UI of this kind.

                      As a customer, I expect my loyalty to be earned, not force-fed with a bunch of "value added" features needlessly segregated to more expensive "options". It's a business practice i'm not fond of, because it means that the market isn't providing enough competition to push basic functionality and features, even if they wouldn't add to the cost of the unit.

                      I feel the same way about Creative soundcards...you find many of the "basic" editions lacking access to features that are indeed built into the cards themselves, but needlessly segregated to more expensive versions of the same hardware (only with el-cheapo "riser boards" and "drive bays" at premium price tags...they've gone so far as to re-brand a driver package for Dell laptops with the "audigy" logo, even though it adds no hardware to the laptop at all...they're charging for drivers, and with Vista coming, it's not going to stop there).

                      Other than that, the H701 is a fine processor that offers a lot of features and control you'd normally pay big money for. I just have that one gripe.
                      I have too much time and too little aggravation in my life, so I built a carPC. ;)

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                      • #12
                        After speaking with hithere he is not sure that it will control the digital inputs correctly with my IVA-W200. Anyone out there know if it will control the inputs without having Alpine devices in the toslink in?

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