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  • Slightly, ok, very confused, car audio newb thinking of a car pc...help me out lol :P

    Hey

    Well, at the moment, I have the bog standard, factory stereo fitted to my Corsa ('02 model), and have been looking around at different audio products, namely new speakers, amps, a sub, etc, and have found a few things I like (I'll post the models at the end of the post but unimportant at the moment).

    But, also toying with the idea of getting a car pc, really like the idea, and for argument sake, let's say I was to get the 'Beginner Car PC Packager - Stage 3'...

    What I'm confused about is where I'd plug all that stuff I just mentioned ^. Personally, I don't know enough about car audio equipment to go messing around trying to install it all myself, will probably just take it to the local Halfords or some other garage to get the speakers etc fitted, which is straight forward enough... But the confusion, for me atleast, comes in when I purchase the car pc.

    Let's say that I go out and buy the speakers, amps, etc tomorrow, get them fitted to the factory head unit (it'll have to do for a little while...), then a month down the line, buy the car pc. Is it just a case of swapping out the head unit for the Xenarc one (or whichever one I end up getting) and plugging the amps into that? I can imagine that working for things like, DVD, radio, etc.. But I'm finding it hard to understand how, in PC mode, with the amps/speakers connected to the head unit and not the sound card (can you even connect them directly to the sound card?) that the PC will output any sound...

    I appreciate the help, that was a very long-winded way to ask a pretty simple question... But it's already typed out now...so it's staying :P

    Thanks Again,

    - Tom

    ___
    (Also, haven't decided on audio equipment yet, but this is more of a case of 'something along the lines of')

    2x Component
    Hertz Energy ESK 165.3
    (100W RMS / 200W Peak)

    1x 2-Way Amp
    Kenwood KAC-7203
    (170W RMS / ?W Peak)

    ..
    Going to pass on rear speakers for now. When money allows it (y) lol.
    ..

    1x Sub
    15" Vibe AC15 EVO
    (1500W RMS / 4500W Peak)
    ^^ Only on recent reading have I realised how much space these take up, do you think that would fit in the boot and still leave a fair bit of room for other things? ^^

    ..and an amp for the sub, suggestions welcome.

    I realise this is a car pc forum, but you know, while I'm here, is that setup any good? Kinda mixed the brands up a bit there, but I'm open to advice...

    Thanks

  • #2
    Can't answer your carpc questions as I don't have experience with those items.

    However

    i realise this is a car pc forum, but you know, while I'm here, is that setup any good? Kinda mixed the brands up a bit there, but I'm open to advice...3
    Decent choice of front speakers
    Ok amp
    Sub - not something i'd buy
    Skipping the rear speakers - good decision

    Without a budget I can't accurately recomend an amp or sub package.

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    • #3
      It's a lot more involved than I can cover here in this post, but it is doable. I would suggest one of two paths for you:

      - Hire a pro to do the install
      - Read on this sit about this stuff for quite a while until you have enough info absorbed into your brain that you feel comfortable doing it yourself. All the info you need is here for your perusal...
      2006 Lancer Evolution IX MR In-Dash PC Project - WIP

      Planning:
      [----------] 100%
      Purchasing:
      [----------] 90%
      Installation/Fab/Assembly (Revised v2):
      [----------] 90%

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      • #4
        Check the FAQ for car PC wiring diagrams. If you have trouble understanding them after examining them for awhile, you'll need to get a professional to install the system for you.
        Originally posted by ghettocruzer
        I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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        • #5
          Start here and read up on everything you need because it is a big project. Hooking up the speakers is fairly easy and just requires running wires from the amp to the computer unless you keep the Head Unit and use the aux in jack (if it has one)
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          • #6
            with that sub at that power you will be lucky to hear the door speakers. the amp you have picked out for the hertz is a little on the high side. im not a fan of over powering, i dont mind 10 maybe 15w over but 70wRMS over the ratings of the speakers is a little much.

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            • #7
              Ok, thanks for all the help (y)

              Had a read through some of the posts in the FAQ, most relevant one being this one, and I think I understand it a fair bit better.

              It looks pretty straight forward to connect the pc to the car audio system, the setup in the second picture seems to be the best way, and if worst comes to worst I'll do it that way. The third picture shows what I want to do, connect the PC to the car head unit, and have the head unit output the sound to the amps/speakers. This would would allow me to use the head unit for cd/radio whilst the PC is off/powering up, and then use the PC as the audio input when it's on.

              But, if I use aux-in as the pic shows, won't the sound quality be terrible, compared to a direct connection to the amp as in pics 1 and 2?

              Ideally I'd like to set it up like the 3rd picture, but if the sound quality is a lot lower compared to the other ways it's not too much of an issue to just connect it directly to the amp/s, I'd just be sacrificing the ability to use radio, etc?

              Thanks again

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mylt1 View Post
                with that sub at that power you will be lucky to hear the door speakers. the amp you have picked out for the hertz is a little on the high side. im not a fan of over powering, i dont mind 10 maybe 15w over but 70wRMS over the ratings of the speakers is a little much.
                Overpowering doesn't matter at all. If a system is properly tuned, having a ton of head room is ABSOLUTELY desired. It gives the amplifier far greater control over the speaker.
                Jan Bennett
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tomsel View Post
                  But, if I use aux-in as the pic shows, won't the sound quality be terrible, compared to a direct connection to the amp as in pics 1 and 2?
                  That entirely depends on the quality of the aux-in on your head unit (in other words, the quality of your head unit). It will also depend on the quality of your media files (mp3s).

                  If FM audio is a must, why not look into the HQCT? Excellent SQ can be had without a head unit and ONLY with a CarPC. I've proven that 4 times over now.
                  Jan Bennett
                  FS: VW MKIV Bezel for 8" Lilliput - 95% Finished

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                  • #10
                    the HQCT is so last year though check here for the latest greatest in over the air reception
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                    first windows carpc install........my liquid cooled LVDS screen :D

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                    • #11
                      Ok, well FM Radio isn't really...necessary. And if it causes that much hassle I'll just leave it out. But basicly I wanted something to listen to while the PC is starting up, and since I doubt I'll be carrying many CDs with me I thought radio would be the best solution.

                      Something I did look at was the Lilliput in-dash car PC, mainly because it functioned as a stand alone media player while the OS is booting up. After looking at the specs of it though am a bit put off, it's not that great and basicly no way to upgrade it.

                      Another thing I looked at, but a tad pricey, out of stock and afaik not available in the UK is the Xenarc MD-X7000 (on this site). I could use that as a stand alone head unit before I get the car PC, it has 4x 55w outputs for me to plug amps/speakers into, and for when I do buy the car PC, it has a aux in. This seems the best option for what I want to do, but only concern is whether using the aux in is going to mean a considerable loss of sq.

                      If I decide to go with just the car pc...then it's more straightforward, just annoying I have to sit in silence while it starts up :P Which is basicly my only problem with doing this way, it's not that big a deal. What sort of time do most of your carputers take to boot up? I've read through the FAQ post about improving boot up times, but it didn't say (as far as I could see anyway) about what the time could be reduced to.

                      Thanks

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                      • #12
                        Why do you need something to listen to for under 30 seconds?

                        For most people, that's hardly enough time to back out of the driveway...lol

                        I'd read up about all of the issues on the 7000 before you go and jump on it.

                        Your boot times will vary depending on how you have your PC configured and if you use hibernation or not.
                        Jan Bennett
                        FS: VW MKIV Bezel for 8" Lilliput - 95% Finished

                        Please post on the forums! Chances are, someone else has or will have the same questions as you!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tomsel View Post
                          Hey

                          Is it just a case of swapping out the head unit for the Xenarc one (or whichever one I end up getting) and plugging the amps into that?
                          You can't just swap out your head unit for a Xenarc. A screen has no mounting brackets (it won't just pop in like putting in a new HU), and you'll have to do a lot of fabrication to get it to fit and look good. You don't plug the amps into the Xenarc, thats just a monitor. What you want to do it run RCA cables from your soundcard to your amps, then have them wired to the speakers.

                          I'm fairly computer inclined and have spent many, many hours getting my carpc to where i want it. I've had 2 in the past year, and I've still got one more bug that I'm ironing out. You'll want to spend lots of time reading everything on this site before you buy anything, and remember, no CarPCs just pop right in, (unless of course you have an infill). Theres tons of FAQs and Guides here to read, they helped me out a lot.

                          Good luck

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                          • #14
                            I think he's referring to the 7000 Xenarc...http://store.mp3car.com/Xenarc_7_IN_..._p/mon-049.htm
                            Jan Bennett
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