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  • Recommend an external soundcard that is easy on resources and will hibernate

    I am looking to upgrade from using the onboard sound from my m10000 motherboard.

    I was going to get the X-Fi usb sound card, but after reading around the thread, it seems this sound card has issues with hibernation and also takes alot of CPU power.

    So I am wondering if you guys had any alternative recommendations. Preferably something that wont cause any issues during the hibernation/standby processes. I am also running a very low power VIA setup, so low cpu useage is very desirable (is that even possible with a usb soundcard). My setup is very compact, so no room for a PCI sound card.

    Any recommendations?

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    sound blaster live 24bit meets all the above criteria
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    • #3
      How about this:
      http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/gene...bloat-dac.html

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      • #4
        Yikes...$187 is a big investment. Looks really interesting, but Im not sure if I will notice a significant difference using my car's audio system. Im really interested in trying this out for my laptop + ultimate ears super.fi5/jamo e825/altec lansing mx5021 setup first though.

        You guys think I will be able to hear a significant difference, or is this just for the audiophile? Maybe someone can convince me why I should get the Bloat rather than a cheap and simple usb DAC such as this DAC cable:

        http://www.headphonia.com/Accessorie...156267b7f6e924

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nobb View Post
          Yikes...$187 is a big investment. Looks really interesting, but Im not sure if I will notice a significant difference using my car's audio system. Im really interested in trying this out for my laptop + ultimate ears super.fi5/jamo e825/altec lansing mx5021 setup first though.

          You guys think I will be able to hear a significant difference, or is this just for the audiophile? Maybe someone can convince me why I should get the Bloat rather than a cheap and simple usb DAC such as this DAC cable:

          http://www.headphonia.com/Accessorie...156267b7f6e924
          There are lots of reasons the Bloat works great for Carputers. I'd say the biggest is that it does a really good job of eliminating a lot of the noises associated with computer audio. Harware noise and the like a not a problem and it also does a fantastic job of rejecting noise from your car's electrical components because it has a way higher output (4.0 volts rms) than most everything else. It is well designed to ensure the audio stays clean, but it also outputs very very clear and full sound. It made from really high end components. Bottom line is that standard computer audio is horrible and put it in a car and its even worse- it wont take an audiophile to hear the difference between the Bloat and almost any lesser quality way of outputing sound. You will notice a very audible difference between the Bloat and the DAC you linked to and you won't need "trained" ears or to close your eyes to hear it.. If you have any other questions just PM me or post in the group buy thread. Thnx!

          Joey

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          • #6
            I will be hooking up my CarPC to my Alpine H700 processor using optical cable. Is it necessary to get the Bloat DAC?

            I am using a low end processor, will this USB audio card take up a lot of CPU resource and USB bandwidth?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by amapro704 View Post
              There are lots of reasons the Bloat works great for Carputers. I'd say the biggest is that it does a really good job of eliminating a lot of the noises associated with computer audio. Harware noise and the like a not a problem and it also does a fantastic job of rejecting noise from your car's electrical components because it has a way higher output (4.0 volts rms) than most everything else. It is well designed to ensure the audio stays clean, but it also outputs very very clear and full sound. It made from really high end components. Bottom line is that standard computer audio is horrible and put it in a car and its even worse- it wont take an audiophile to hear the difference between the Bloat and almost any lesser quality way of outputing sound. You will notice a very audible difference between the Bloat and the DAC you linked to and you won't need "trained" ears or to close your eyes to hear it.. If you have any other questions just PM me or post in the group buy thread. Thnx!

              Joey
              bloat might be an option but its another product that is NOT cpu friendly. I'd sure like to do some testing on the difference between the x-fi and the bloat in terms of its strain on a carputer. I cant imagine it uses even more cpu than a DAC
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              • #8
                Why would the bloat use resources? The OS views it as a USB speaker.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
                  bloat might be an option but its another product that is NOT cpu friendly. I'd sure like to do some testing on the difference between the x-fi and the bloat in terms of its strain on a carputer. I cant imagine it uses even more cpu than a DAC
                  I bet they are very close in resource consumption overall. Though the Bloat would be using USB bandwith and no software, but the x-fi would be using software also so I guess there are different implications becuase of how they are using what resources.. I don't know. I have 1.4 celeron processor and 1 gig of ram. Not the fastest but not the slowest and its perfectly fine even with many other apps running (including delorme gps which is not lite!)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kwchan View Post
                    I will be hooking up my CarPC to my Alpine H700 processor using optical cable. Is it necessary to get the Bloat DAC?

                    I am using a low end processor, will this USB audio card take up a lot of CPU resource and USB bandwidth?
                    I'm interested in knowing this too. But it seems the bloat is not optical capable and some H700 have issues with noise on the analog connections. If the bloat could be optical that would be awesome.

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                    • #11
                      The Bloat using optical output would totally make useless the majority of its components. What you guys are in search of is a completely different device focusing on optical output rather than digital to analog conversion.. Some DAC's also have optical output but can be much more expensive or of a lot cheaper quality, or both! The Bloat is golden for analog output because that is what it is solely designed for. I have heard of some noise issues with using analog input on the H700 or H701, but I thought I read about a fix (something to do with a ground???) for it somewhere, sometime, probably long ago but I may be wrong on that one. I know its phenominal sounding with my 3sixty.2.

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                      • #12
                        I have a 3sixty.2 you think there is a huge difference between a cheap creative sound blaster live 24 bit pci version into my 3sixty.2 and the bloat to the 3sixty.2 I though the 3sixty.2 would make up for the cheap sound card I use I thought I would be set with either a quality DAC or a quality sound processor not both??

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ethan537 View Post
                          I have a 3sixty.2 you think there is a huge difference between a cheap creative sound blaster live 24 bit pci version into my 3sixty.2 and the bloat to the 3sixty.2 I though the 3sixty.2 would make up for the cheap sound card I use I thought I would be set with either a quality DAC or a quality sound processor not both??
                          Thats what I thought at first to be honest, but the difference is significant. I originally was going to use onboard sound into the 3sixty.2 hoping it would make up the difference, but theres no way. After much trial and error and after a steep learning curve it really started to make sense to me that A) the best digital processor in the worl won't clear up harware and electrical noise and B) it wont clear up poor signal and especially not add information that is essentially missing. Trust me bro, I used to think the exact same way as you, but then I realized the importance of the signal chain. The 3sixty.2 gives flexibilty and the ability to change the sound (very versatile EQ) but it can only change the soound it is given.. On a side note, I don't know the technical explaination for this but the 3sixty.2 sounds better with stronger input signal. The stronger signal you feed it the better it sounds! I dont know why but I have read that others have found the same thing to be true- 1 guy noting that after adding a line driver it made it sound much better. ??? I dont know why but the Bloat basically has a built in line driver and very high voltage output (4.0volts RMS). It may be because if you feed it weak, noisy signal you have to turn up the gains/levels on the 360 esentially amplifying the noise!

                          Anyways, long story short, it is much better than other cheaper USB or PCI soundcards (not to mention doing away with software) and strength/clarity early on in the signal chain is key and can't really be made up for by ANY device downstream. I recommend ordering one! lol

                          Thnx,
                          Joey

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the info if I wasn't broke from buying the 3sixty.2 maybe I would buy one. I guess I'll just live with it and wait for the next group buy.

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                            • #15
                              Meh, there wont be another GB but maybe I'll swipe up an extra and sell it to you later If you can scrape together the cash by the end you should get one man. I know it stings to spend so much money at once but you are going to be wanting one down the road- especially after so many ppl have these in their hands and start postin some great reviews on it!

                              PS Bloat+3sixty.2 w/ windows bluetooth software is one of the sickest audio setups imagineable.

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