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  • 50 rms louder than 200rms?

    Ok, I have 2 amps. One of them is 50rms x 2channels and the second one is 80rms x channel.
    I connected my 50rms amp to 2 subs. So, as i understand both are running 50 rms.
    Now the weird thing is that when i bridge my second amp (80 x ch, or 200 bridged) the sub hits less and is quieter, any ideas why?

    ***EDIT***

    One puts 50rms to 1 sub and the other amp is putting 200 (bridged). 50rms is louder and hits harder!!!!!!!!!

    Hope i made it more clear
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  • #2
    maybe the 50rms amp is under-rated, and actually putting out more power.

    or

    the 80rms is over-rated and putting out less power.

    * I assume that both amps are rated power at the same speaker impedance (ohms)..
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    • #3
      Originally posted by pulsarsimon View Post
      maybe the 50rms amp is under-rated, and actually putting out more power.

      or

      the 80rms is over-rated and putting out less power.

      * I assume that both amps are rated power at the same speaker impedance (ohms)..
      yes, both are rated at the same speaker impedance.
      Also, both are pioneer, so, i would guess that are rated the same way.
      Any other thoughts?
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      • #4
        gain levels?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bratnetwork View Post
          gain levels?
          I played with both amps for few minutes until it was the loudest or hit the hardest i could get it to.

          Any suggestions on those? Im kinda a newb :P
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          • #6
            it could also be that what you perceive as "louder" may only be more distortion.

            what are the brand/models of the 2 amps?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by pulsarsimon View Post
              it could also be that what you perceive as "louder" may only be more distortion.

              what are the brand/models of the 2 amps?
              both are pioneer
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              • #8
                Same sub or different sub? Could be more/less sensative...

                Are you sure that 200rms isn't peak??
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                • #9
                  It could realy be distortion, which makes the 50W amp sound loder. Are amp models the same?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by justchat_1 View Post
                    Same sub or different sub? Could be more/less sensative...

                    Are you sure that 200rms isn't peak??
                    Same sub
                    Yes, its 200 rms.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mrplix View Post
                      It could realy be distortion, which makes the 50W amp sound loder. Are amp models the same?
                      Yes, both are the same brand, Pioneer, but one of them is new and the other one is about 6-7 years old

                      Also, can someone explain to me what 'distortion' exactly means?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by andruha1123 View Post
                        Yes, both are the same brand, Pioneer, but one of them is new and the other one is about 6-7 years old
                        new one sounds louder? no surprises there....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dexamenus View Post
                          new one sounds louder? no surprises there....

                          So, do you mean that 50 'new' rms should sound louder than 'old' 200rms?
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                          • #14
                            well from the info we have, anything could have happened to that sub over 7 years, degradation to the wires in the voice coil maybe, rust in the voice coil......

                            I just dont think you can compare a 7 year old sub with a new one and expect them to sound like you do even with different power ratings

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dexamenus View Post
                              well from the info we have, anything could have happened to that sub over 7 years, degradation to the wires in the voice coil maybe, rust in the voice coil......

                              I just dont think you can compare a 7 year old sub with a new one and expect them to sound like you do even with different power ratings
                              I'm actually talking about amps, not the sub :P
                              I just used the sub to test 2 amps
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