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  • Would I benefit from new speakers?

    Kind of a stupid question but I've never upgraded my speakers with a car computer. My audio with a car computer has never been as good as it was with a regular pre-amped CD player for obvious reasons but I've lived with it, especially since I got the low end covered with a subwoofer. The stock speakers by themselves put out a pretty shrieking quality of sound though, no low end at all.

    So I got a $50 Futureshop gift card, was thinking about picking up a 2 pack of speakers for $80 or so, would this make much difference in sound you think? My stock ones might even be blown, I can't tell with the computer sound quality.
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  • #2
    Well, after you determine whether or not the speakers are blown, you might benefit more from putting a crossover in place. Are you after SQ or SPL? I'm under the impression you have an amplifier in place to power your front stage, so correct me if I'm wrong.

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    • #3
      wait, so your saying that the audio quality is worse with the carpc then when you had a standard HU?

      if this is the case, a soundcard might help.

      cheap aftermarket speakers are usually just above the quality of factory speakers, so you might hear a difference, but you might not..
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      • #4
        I do have an amplifier powering my speakers but there's no pre-amp so it sounds.....okay. And I'm after total SQL, I don't care about feeling the music. Even though I listen to rap.
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        • #5
          I'm a big proponent of crossovers and helping the speaker to the best of their ability. Speakers aren't meant to play all frequencies and are more so designed to play in ranges. Unfortunately, stock speaker systems come with very limited (if any) EQ/crossover options. A good crossover can help out in a lot of cases. And better speakers, as well.

          As far as speakers, look around for what you like. Sample a lot of diff types if you have the chance. There are a lot of options, and I'm also fond of shopping craigslist. People upgrade all the time, and you know what they say about one man's trash being another man's treasure. Just make sure that you get a chance to demo them.

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          • #6
            i kind of doubt your after 'total sql' otherwise, you would have already upgraded your speakers, probably would have considered active x-overs, or custom-built x-overs, or amps that might have cost more then your first car, and are always considering ways to improve driver staging...

            good clarity yes, but 'total sq' is a little up there...


            i have liked, and always recommended 2-way speakers as good starters, because they have a good balance between low cost, and noticeable sound quality..

            after 2-way's don't satisfy your needs, component sets are the next step.

            and after you notice the component sets don't do so well, active x-overs are the next step (at least, this is the way i progressed)

            the overall cost is very tough to nail down-- my first set of aftermarket speakers were $10/pair. after that, i paid $400 total for a component pioneer set+ some kenwood 2-ways. my current setup blows all of them out of the water, and cost less then $150 total for 2 separate 6.5" drivers, and 2 separate 1-1/8" tweeters..



            Originally posted by whats77inaname View Post
            There are a lot of options, and I'm also fond of shopping craigslist. People upgrade all the time, and you know what they say about one man's trash being another man's treasure. Just make sure that you get a chance to demo them.
            that is super important. unless you can get the parts for less then $20, i never touch anything without hearing it play...
            Last edited by soundman98; 02-25-2011, 06:18 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by soundman98 View Post
              i kind of doubt your after 'total sql' otherwise, you would have already upgraded your speakers, probably would have considered active x-overs, or custom-built x-overs, or amps that might have cost more then your first car, and are always considering ways to improve driver staging...

              good clarity yes, but 'total sq' is a little up there...


              i have liked, and always recommended 2-way speakers as good starters, because they have a good balance between low cost, and noticeable sound quality..

              after 2-way's don't satisfy your needs, component sets are the next step.

              and after you notice the component sets don't do so well, active x-overs are the next step (at least, this is the way i progressed)

              the overall cost is very tough to nail down-- my first set of aftermarket speakers were $10/pair. after that, i paid $400 total for a component pioneer set+ some kenwood 2-ways. my current setup blows all of them out of the water, and cost less then $150 total for 2 separate 6.5" drivers, and 2 separate 1-1/8" tweeters..





              that is super important. unless you can get the parts for less then $20, i never touch anything without hearing it play...
              My first car was $20,000.

              I might have misrepresented myself......I've never upgraded the speakers in MY car before. I've been running stock since I bought this car 5 years ago but I am after total SQL.....just could never afford it and other things took priority. I did have a nice system in a car that someone else owned and I drove, it was 2 4x6 Rockford Fosgate 2 ways, 2 6x9 Rockford Fosgate 2 ways, a ported 12 inch HE2 in a specialty built box, monoblock Rockford m250 amplifier and JVC KD-LX30 El-Kameleon CD player. Sounded great and hit 137.5 decibels in a DB drag competition.

              Until I t-boned a guy and wrote the car off, sending the stereo to the wreckers with it.
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              • #8
                well then, have you looked into carpc controlled audio processing?
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                • #9
                  I'd recommend demoing:

                  -Hybrid Audio Technologies
                  -Focal
                  -Image Dynamics

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                  • #10
                    Okay.......but I can upgrade to really nice speakers in the future, right now I just want to know if some free ones will help me or not. And by free I mean I have that $50 Futureshop gift card I can use so something in the $80 - $100 range.....almost free. For 2 speakers.
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                    • #11
                      What size are you looking for? Civic, so I'm thinking 6.5"? If so, they have a decent JVC 6.5" component set for $79.95. Built in crossover, 4 speakers, so you can position the tweeters separately, or put them in with the mid. I saw some Energy's, but I'm not familiar with that brand, so I can't comment. I do believe you should be able to find the JVCs somewhere to demo them before you buy them, as they're a bit more common.
                      Last edited by whats77inaname; 02-26-2011, 01:54 AM.

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                      • #12
                        for something quick, the $50 jvc's should do the job fine. after a brief search, the energy audio stuff seems to be from the same manufacturer as the energy home theater stuff-- which get great reviews. i have heard a couple sets of those, and while i am not a huge fan of the hard dome tweeters, the sound is still amazing.

                        so the extra $50 for the energy coaxials would be well-spent..
                        My OLD 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT:
                        "The Project That Never Ended, until it did"


                        next project? subaru brz
                        carpc undecided

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                        • #13
                          But if your speakers sounded fine before the CarPC, and you don't do anything in the way of a processor, or at least an EQ within the CarPC, the new speakers will likely sound just as bad as the old ones.
                          "Have we grown so hard we can't feel right or wrong, or have we grown so cold we just don't care?" - Dave Matney

                          I don't currently have a CarPC, I just ask a lot of questions.

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                          • #14
                            As you can see, there are a lot of details and thought to put in prior to jumping in. At least you've figured out one of the most important: that you favor SQ of SPL, so do a little research based on the recommendations you've received, and make an educated decision.

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                            • #15
                              My 2.5c worth...
                              New speakers are often better than old if the olds have crazed or stiffened cones etc.

                              And standard speakers are often easily improved... My mate replaced his VX Commodore door speaker (which weren't bad) with $28 Audio...-something real cheap speakers. The improvement was so good we went back. I bought a pair to replace my ~$160 Sonys or Pioneers or whatever, and he bought 6x9s of the same brand for $35 and fitted to the rear parcel shelf. He now rocks (I still thrash & slam.)


                              Hearing is good but not always possible. Besides, in the final enclosure etc the sound can totally change... (for better or worse).

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