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  • Door speaker and water.

    Some of you may already replace the stock speakers in your car. In general most door mount speakers will be protected from water by mean of plastic "pocket" around speakers. My Matrix doesn't have that "pocket". If I pour a cup of water from outside the window, some of them will end up on the speaker.

    How do I protect the speaker from getting soak when I wash the car or raining? Or those speaker are very much water resistant?
    I am thinking of installing those speaker baffle to protect the speakers from getting soak (not really soak) and die early.
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    There has got to be something thats supposed to protect the inside of the door. If not, then that is a very poor design. While some speakers may be able to take a bit of moisture, you dont want water getting to the wiring in the doors for power locks, windows and so on. I would look into that further and find out whats to protect the inside of the door. There may be a inner skin that is inside the door, or something. I have never seen the guts of a matrix to know.
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    • #3
      Moron.

      Have you opened your door yet?

      Take a look inside and find the ooky black goop holding a plastic liner.

      And better than that, car manufacturers im sure think about it actually raining and that maybe youd wanna wash yer car someday.

      So best bet, no rain is gonna get into your door, unless you ****ED it up of something.

      Anyway, dont be silly its a new car and it does rain, unlike it did in the early 80s.

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      • #4
        wierd man.. you should have that plastic **** with the goo on it to protect your speakers..
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        • #5
          If there is something to protect the speaker, then this thread will not exist. I yank the door panel out yesterday, and to my suprise, there was NOTHING to protect the speaker. There are plastic "pocket", cover/wrap around most of electrical component in the door but the speaker.
          I have to love "GM" design. Yes it's a Toyota but minor stuff was design by GM and the radio was make by Delphi/AC/Delco for GM. Sometime I have to order part under the name Pontiac Vibe instead of Toyota Matrix.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by sdashiki
            Moron.

            Have you opened your door yet?

            Take a look inside and find the ooky black goop holding a plastic liner.

            And better than that, car manufacturers im sure think about it actually raining and that maybe youd wanna wash yer car someday.

            So best bet, no rain is gonna get into your door, unless you ****ED it up of something.

            Anyway, dont be silly its a new car and it does rain, unlike it did in the early 80s.


            You have a Matrix too?
            Well yank the rear door panel out and you know what I am talking about.
            I am not sure about the front door, but I am 99.9% sure that there is no such thing to protect the speaker as well.
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            • #7
              Dood, they dont design cars to allow water inside anywhere.

              If that was to happen, they wouldnt sell ****, ever.

              It rains in the world, so they make cars able to run while it is raining, and keep you dry all at the same time.

              I dont need to open the back door panel to find that out, I dont worry when I wash my car, or when it rains. And neither should you man. YOU GOT A TOYOTA THEY DONT MAKE CRAP!!!!! Even if GM made SOME, i stress some, of the ELECTRICAL components, its still at the heart, a Toyota, and while GM doesnt give a **** about reputations (its made in the USA, must be good, thats who they sell to) Toyota doesnt put out **** especially if it has the world COROLLA in it.

              I bought my matrix for the simple reason that is is a COROLLA, the best made longest lasting car toyota's got.

              NEVER EVER EVER BUY THE FIRST YEAR OF A CAR! YOU WILL BE DOOMED TO GO THRU ALL THE FAILURES THAT ARE BOUND TO HAPPEN ON AN UNTESTED CAR! But in this case I didnt take my own advice cuz its at the heart of it all, a tried and true corolla.
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              • #8
                http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QwbNkk7...sp?g=762&avf=N

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                • #9
                  The plastic with the goo holding it onto the door is not there to protect from rain or moisture, although it might help a little bit. If you are getting large amounts of water inside your door, there is something wrong with your car. if you look from the outside of your car at the bottom of the window, you should see a moulding. This stops about 95% of the water from getting inside your door. Although you cannot see below that moulding, there is most likely another one below it inside the door. When the window is closed, it should form a tight seal all the way around the window.

                  Again, if you are getting a lot of water insided your door and it is a brand new car, I would say bring it back to the deal and have it looked at!!!

                  My $.02

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                  • #10
                    your solution sir.
                    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-JGWA7X5...&search=baffle

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                    • #11
                      I knew that the goop and plastic does nothing for water safety, yeah a little but its not its purpose, cuz they water would be SHEETING off of it inside yer door, meaning they LET water in. BUt they dont.

                      Like i said, yer a idiot if u think water is supposed to get inside the door and they make some sort of shield for that.

                      Like it was said, the door seals water out by itself.

                      You dont need a solution, you need a brain.

                      Or to yell at your dealership.
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                      • #12
                        Someone needs to take a valium. Stop name calling and try to be civil.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          I knew that the goop and plastic does nothing for water safety, yeah a little but its not its purpose, cuz they water would be SHEETING off of it inside yer door, meaning they LET water in. BUt they dont.

                          Like i said, yer a idiot if u think water is supposed to get inside the door and they make some sort of shield for that.

                          Like it was said, the door seals water out by itself.

                          You dont need a solution, you need a brain.

                          Or to yell at your dealership.
                          Um, then why are there a series of oblong holes in the bottom of your door? Because water WILL get inside your door.

                          The rubber/felt strips will stop most of the water from getting inside your door, but not all. The "goop and palstic" will not keep any water off of your speakers, since they are bolted into the door panel and the magnets will protrude into the door.

                          Take your drivers side door panel off and drive around in the rain for a while. You may be surprised at how much water gets inside your door. You won't see a waterfall, but more water than I will let come anywhere my BA's.

                          BTW: Don't be such an *******. Since you know so much, maybe you should try actually helping someone.
                          (Hmmm, theres a thought....... )

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                          • #14
                            The door has 2 seals from outside. Yes, water will not just pour right in there, and if it does, there are holes at the bottom to drain out. My concern is in the long run not a month or 2.
                            In my original post I did mention about getting a baffle to protect it. The only reason that I am paranoid about is why other cars has the plastic "pocket" to help protect the speaker from "drop" into the speaker if the seal is leak or whatever reason.
                            I just don't want to put risk the investment and headache when a simple 10 bucks can save my headache.

                            Well, I buy a Toyota for a reason.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MatrixPC
                              I just don't want to put risk the investment and headache when a simple 10 bucks can save my headache.
                              My point exactly.

                              Example:
                              Your door is 4" thick. The bottom of your window is probably 1" inside the door from the outer edge. Your speaker will probably only protrude 1" - 1.5" into the door. Any water that drips off of the window will most likely miss your speaker.

                              I don't know anything about your Matrix, but I have seen other vehicles that don't any protection for the speaker. if you don't have any, I would just buy a pair of those from Crutchfield and put them in with the new speakers.

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