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    Ok, I have been absolutely torn about what speaker/amp setup to get for my '98 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer. This area is new to me and want something pretty good (definitely not looking for competition obviously). I have read several places about not going with rear speakers all together and spending the extra money on higher quality front speakers. Being that my vehicle has more interior space would that make much difference with not having rear speakers (I figured the amp would give plenty of juice to fill the vehicle)? Also, I will be replacing the factory amp/sub (which is 8" and dead right now) but I'm not looking for major bass there (just something to get the rump shaking ).

    Setup #1
    Front speakers: Infinity Reference 6810cs
    Rear speakers: Infinity Reference 6812cf
    Amp: Profile AP1040

    Setup #2
    Front speakers: Infinity Kappa 680.7cs
    Rear speakers: none
    Amp: eD NINe.2

    I guess really I'm just looking for a push in one direction. In a way I'm leaning towards the 2nd setup because I can spend a little extra now and if I want later I can throw in those rear speakers and an additional amp (or replace the 2 channel with a 4 channel amp). After I get this step rolling then I can get my order on for touchscreen, computer, etc...

    Any advice would be great! Thanks!

  • #2
    Set up number 2.
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    • #3
      Cool, thanks for the reply.

      Just another thought. Would it at all be beneficial to get the NINe.4 for the front speakers instead or should I just stick with the NINe.2 from setup #2 above?

      Thanks again.

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      • #4
        ED's Quality has gone down over the years, more so recently.

        I myself drive a 97 Mountaineer and can honestly say that I noticed absolutely no difference in having four speakers or two speakers. im sure if you are an SQ competitor that there is a difference, but most SQ competitors have speakers in the doors, the kick panels and a center channel as well as tweeters.

        if you are willing to drop the change, look into the Alpine Type X 6.5's....great sound for the money. and sound awesome with about 50 watts to each.

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        • #5
          Hey Mike, thanks for the info. Honestly has the quality of the ED's gone down that much that I should be avoiding them? Again, I'm not looking for competition quality just something better than my factory setup. Will I find much difference from the Profile versus the ED's or should I avoid both of those all together? But really in the end as long as I am looking at RMS does the brand name matter that much?

          I'm definitely going to go with the two higher quality speaker setup for the front and if it just isn't sounding right (which I doubt will be the case) I could then throw in some rear speakers. Anyone else happy with their two speaker setup?

          Thanks.

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          • #6
            Would it be better to just go away from the eD NINe.2 and go with a JL Audio 300/4. This way I could power my two front speakers and bridge the rear channels to my 8" sub (JL Audio 8W0)? Or would it be better to have a separate amp for the sub because bridging the rear channels would not give it enough power? Just a thought.

            - Todd

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            • #7
              i am not a fan of JL at all (which we wont get into) but I do feel the JL amp will last longer and produce higher quality sound than the ED amp will. you could also look into ppi amps, there sub amps arent that great but there component amps are awesome. Diamond and even an infinity amp would do well also.

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              • #8
                Alright, so you think the following setup would work out good:

                Front speakers: Infinity Kappa 680.7cs
                Amp: Infinity Reference 7541a
                Sub: Infinity Reference 850w (any other brand suggestions would be great)

                I will use the 4-channel amp to power the front speakers and sub. So it looks like the amp will do 111 RMS to each of the front speakers and then 278 RMS bridged to the sub. Let me know if that will work out? Hopefully this system will be a nice step up from my factory setup =)

                Thanks for the help!

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                • #9
                  I love the single amp setups, like the last you have lsited. I have a huge PPI amp in my truck that drives 3 JL 8s and and MB Quart three-way component setup. That's 9 speakers off that amp, and it doesn't even break a sweat. I also agree with the rear speaker thing, especially in that vehicle. You should check into some of the enclosures that are designed for that vehicle that replace the factory sub. I've heard some 10s back there that sound pretty good.

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                  • #10
                    I've actually heard the opposite about the ED amps. There quality was supposedly questionable back in the day, but Avionixx makes their amps now and they put out solid products. The older ED amps actually had problems, whereas the newer ones have been perfected.

                    On the JL amp....you can't bridge one channel and run the speakers off the other two channels. The JL has a shared internal power supply that will put out equal power across all channels.

                    I had the JL 300/4....sold it and got the ED Nine.2X to match the 9.1. IMO, im getting excellent sound quality right now and im very happy with both amps. The plus about ED is that they have transferable 3 year warranties and their amps are competitively priced.

                    The Nine.4 would be a better choice only because you can use it as a two channel amp and send 150 watts to two high quality component sets. You can also add rear fill and then use it as a 4 channel amp and send 65 watts to each speaker. It's what you want...imo.
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                    • #11
                      Well,

                      I'm the head of Sales at eD.

                      I'm not sure where you guys get your info. We've never changed amps. We've never had problems with any amp. The Nine.2's/Nine.1's available now are the exact same inside as the very first Nine.2/Nine.1.

                      We did previously sell Avionixx and Tsunami amplifiers, figured out what worked and what didn't in those and released our own line, not made by Avionixx. Yes, the heat sink is in common, because we liked it and it's a completely open tool, anyone can use it. But inside, they're completely different amplifiers.

                      Mike, what do you mean our quality has gone down over the years? The company has only been around for 5 years and the products we put out now don't really ever come back. There were some issues in the past w/ some of the flat cone speakers, but the current line-up of subs/components and amps just don't come back.
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                      • #12
                        Oh fo sho....pwned to the highest degree...lol.

                        @Mandos: I got all that information going off of memory from posts that i've read on another car audio forum....i guess those weren't the most reliable sources...huh?

                        But seriously, ED has a good reputation. That's the only reason i bought their amps...i had never heard one before buying them, but all the reviews on multiple sites show a growing satisfaction with their amps and subs. I'm definitely happy with the Nine.1.

                        I heard that the Nine.4's might need some ventilation because they can get a little warm...(but that's going off of hear say as well), but all of the other amps can be cranked all day and stay cool to the touch.
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                        - Alpine W200/H701
                        - ED Nine.2X
                        - OZ Matrix Elites
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                        - Idmax 12's

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                        • #13
                          The Nine.4 does get warmer than the other amps...but nothing silly hot. The only real incident of that was a person who had it installed flush mounted in an RSX...carpet touching every side of the amp. I also believe it was covered w/ plexi. Any amp needs SOME ventilation if you're going to crank it often...and his Nine.4 has none.

                          It's like running your CPU heatsinkless and overclocking it...it's gonna stop working

                          And just for proof:



                          Current location of my Nine.2...behind the rear panel in my tC...works fine back there
                          Chris Schempp
                          Elemental Designs

                          Scion tC in progress

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                          • #14
                            I will say that your company and product arent very well liked or respected at other car audio forums. I see more complaints than priases unlike with companys such as RE/US Amps, Treo, JL. sorry if you feel your amps are amazing.

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                            • #15
                              I unfortunately have not had any experience with any ED or other brand amps so I can't say otherwise (which is why I'm inquiring). Though I'm trying to find an amp that will allow me to hook up my two front component speakers and an 8" sub. I wasn't aware about that internal power issue with the JL Audio amp and not giving enough power bridged. Would I have any issues with that particular setup with one of these amps?

                              Infinity Reference 7541a
                              eD NINe.4

                              I went to Infinity's website and downloaded the installation manual. They specifically have a setup with two speakers and a sub with that amp so it looks like I wouldn't have any issues with it. I figure the amp rear bridged will give 278 watts RMS which would give plenty of bass to an 8" sub.

                              Originally posted by Legarcondemerde
                              You should check into some of the enclosures that are designed for that vehicle that replace the factory sub. I've heard some 10s back there that sound pretty good.
                              Yeah, I've been reading some of explorer forums and they say that you can modify the enclosure for holding a 10". I may look into that but might just stick with the 8" sub setup with the two front Infinity component speakers and Infinity amp (not sure about the ED amp).

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