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    hey i took out the factory radio and mfd screen from my astra, so i could set up a comp.

    i didnt get that far though as after a week with no radio, 7 ecn codes appeared and the battery went dead AND wont hold a charge.

    the dealership maintain i damaged the ecu and want me to pay to fix it. i had 2 codes before i took out the radio which the dealership claimed to fix.

    can the removal of the radio really do that much damage or is he talking out his arse?
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  • #2
    do you know what the codes were?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by soundman98 View Post
      do you know what the codes were?
      ya they were;
      210870 - no comms with ABS
      050070 - speed signal from ABS
      050071 - abs unit
      050072 - abs unit
      007072 - ambiant air temp sensor
      161450 - wrong transponder key
      161600 - CIM imobiliser (wrong ident code)
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      • #4
        i guess i should warn you-- i have a mitsubishi, and have done very little work with chevy's, or GM's international brands(but i really want to import a holden ute ssv)....


        the ABS errors should have nothing to do with the radio. i don't know of any sensible reason that a car maker would run the ABS through a card radio.. but to be fair, many auto makers do things that are not sensible(GM killed pontiac right as they started using the aussie rwd platform...)

        the ambient air temp sensor could be related-- some radios could control a secondary display that could display this info, but it is highly unlikely..

        and the wrong key should have nothing to do with it either...


        i don't know about the laws in your area, but in the US, there is a law that states that dealers need to prove that the aftermarket equipment caused the vehicle-part failure before blaming the car owner, and denying warranty coverage.. called the magnuson-moss warranty act

        but at the very least, you can always take the car to a different dealership..
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        • #5
          ya the mfd display was connected to the radio. both are plugged out. the radio "may" have been gutted to fit a mobo and a aftermarket radio. i told the dealers it wasnt working so i took it out and dumped it and the mfd which is kinda true, it was working the way i wanted it to

          i've been in contact with opel ireland, instead of the dealership being an opel agent.

          even after all this i will most def finish my project
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          • #6
            quick update.
            the garage came and collected the car to be "fixed" wednesday last. they rang me yesterday to say they had fixed it but it needed a radio and clockpod screen. he told me it was impossible to get a used one and that it would cost me €400 for the radio and €700 for the clock pod. i asked what kind of radio and he said it was the cd30 model.

            he went on to say they would try and see if they could get a replacement used one on the opel exchange. contradicting his "impossible" statement

            i asked him was the car running, as the battery was dead etc, he said it was and he'd ring me back today to update me on the situation with the radio and clock pod. still maintaining it was all the radios,or lack of doing in the first place.

            a quick ebay check and i got these results:
            http://motors-parts.shop.ebay.ie/Veh...=p3286.c0.m282

            i emailed the first guy to see if they were divorced from his car first. if it is the case i'll purchase them and try get my hands on some tech 2 to marry it to mine.

            is there anywhere i buy tech 2 in ireland? of even better yet is there any one with it that i could bother for 5 mins. i'd pay for their troubles
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            • #7
              On Astra H the screen (BID/GID/CID) acts as a gate between differnet speed CAN buses. Taking the sceen out completely and then running the car may theoretically result in various fault codes not related to entertainment or A/C system in any way.

              Running the car with no headunit is OK, if it is not disabled via TECH 2 then a couple of "No communication to headunit" fault codes would be visible but these would not affect the car driveability in any way (actually you would not see any warning lights on the dash or so - these fault codes would be visible only via the dealer scanner like TECH 2).

              I personally have been running the car (2007 Opel Astra OPC) with no headunit for a about a year with no probs. However taking out the screen completely is a no-no You may extend the wiring and relocate the screen to the roof panel.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by leman View Post
                You may extend the wiring and relocate the screen to the roof panel.
                i just got the car back today and fitted a second hand radio and screen. everything seems to be fine now so i suppose it was my bad to begin with.

                Originally posted by leman View Post
                You may extend the wiring and relocate the screen to the roof panel.
                thats exactly what i intend to do since i saw it on a russian site linked in some one else's thread. the last hurdle i have to jump now is fitting a 7" screen into a 6-6.5" space. oh well
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chang View Post
                  thats exactly what i intend to do since i saw it on a russian site linked in some one else's thread
                  Yep we do have a couple of astras like that in russia

                  Fitting 7' screen will require some fabrication, you may want to cut the original frame in corners a bit and then carefully bend the edges to enlarge the screen area. Here are some pictures of mine http://www.pccar.ru/showpost.php?p=169454&postcount=63

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                  • #10
                    thank you for even more motivation. thats what i'm trying to figure out how to fit. i dont want to jump in like a lunatic and cut up the piece and then realise it wont fit. it would help me an absolute ton if you could give me a measurements you have??? pretty please??
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                    • #11
                      Which exactly measurment you mean? The display I used is CarTFT СTF-700H, the screen is 154*93mm (visible area), you may find pretty much any other detail on this screen on the CarTFT website http://www.cartft.com/catalog/displa...l?ls=7&ls1=7.9

                      As you may note from the pics of my screen we had to cut out the lower part of the case back so that it fits between the screws keeping the screen bezel in place. The screen case itself is glued to the bezel.

                      Obviously, the exact dimensions of the screen would vary a bit depending on the screen model but I guess most 7' widescreen LCDs would eventually fit. From what I heard however some lilliputs' tft matrix is a couple of millimeters wider than CarTFT screen matrix so you have to cut the inner parts of brackets in the front panel (the ones keeping screen bezel) to make the screen fit in between.

                      Unfortunately I believe there no way around some fabrication to have a really OEM-looking 7'screen bezel. What actually helps is that screen bezel may be ordered from an opel / vx / holden dealer and is relatively cheap. So if you screw one its no big deal.

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                      • #12
                        sorry i should of been clearer. the measurement you cut back from the lower section would be great.
                        is that the only part you had to cut back? does that mean the screen sits on a slight angle? sorry for all the questions but i've been wracking my brains trying to figure out how to fit it.


                        quick update on the car itself:
                        i eventually got the car back yesterday and put in the new/used cd30 mp3 radio. the radio and the screen were from the same car so it was perfect and everything went fine till i went out to it this morning and discovered the car wont start, same as the last time a completely flat battery. i got a printed report from the garage on it ,it says they detected low voltage. charged the battery and started the car. i paid €100 euro for re-programming the ecu. he told me it cost 160 and wasnt charging me for checking the battery.

                        i'm at my wits end at this stage. i'm gonna bring it to a local tire and battery garage who i know to check the battery for me. all i can think of is that its the altimeter or battery. i drove it around twice last night and had no problems it was left there overnight for about 10 hours.

                        i feel totally ripped off. i've reported the garage to opel ireland about a month ago and havent heard from them since. gonna give them a ring now and update my case.

                        ---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:19 PM ----------

                        so after contacting opel ireland the only thing i can do is bring the car back to the original garage that i have been dealing with. i asked if i went to another opel dealership could they sort ot out without it costing me further but i can but it would cost me. i'm gonna have to bring it to my own trusted mechanic and foot the bill. balls
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                        • #13
                          Final update:

                          i took the car to a battery and tire place (Victory Tires) thats run by my neighbours uncle. i told him the story and we swapped out the battery for a 2nd hand one as a test for the weekend to see if it was the battery, altinator or a short some where else. the car ran perfect all weekend so it ended being the battery itself paid for a new battery and hopefully everythings fine and i can get back to planning my install.

                          much love to every one!
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                          • #14
                            update 4,code name f*** sake

                            so i'm back to the whole completely flat battery again. since i'm able start if after a tow and its a new battery i reckon theres a drain some where. i'd nearly bet my right nut its somewhere near the abs the dealership garage went messing with.

                            gonna bring it to a car electrician in the morning and if it does turn out to be around the abs, you bet your sweet as i'm gonna sue the dealership for compensation/damages

                            i'm getting really sick of this car now at the mo and its not like i have the money spare
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