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  • OBD1 - Options & Solutions Please !!

    Hi There,

    Curently running a 1992 Honda Civic VTi VTEC which is OBD1 not OBD2 which came in during 1996.

    I am now in the final stages of my CarPC (Finishing tomorrow) and would like to interface my ECU with the PC.

    I have contacted Hondata (Honda ECU Specialist's) and have been told that it would cost around 200 to have my ECU converted for DataLogging...Which I think is taking the Pi$$..

    What other solution's are there in order for me to View basically what is going on in my Car's brain without spending 100's or pounds on ECU conversions.

    All I want to do is the be able to datalog whats going on, I don't want to adjust anything as this will be done in the new year when a Vortex Supercharger is being fitted.

    Info on OBD2 can be found here but nothing about OBD1....

    Any Help would be great.

    Regards

    Chris
    1992 Honda Civic EG9 Saloon VTi
    Shuttle XPC SS51G
    Intel 2.4 Ghz
    GeForce 2 GTS Pro 64 m. DDR on a Lilliput 7" T/S
    1024meg PC2700 DDR
    60 Gig 7,200 Drive
    16X DVD
    Haicom H-203-E GPS
    Zippy Mini-EL Keyboard
    Opus 150watt PSU

  • #2
    bump bump bo bump

    I'm on ODB1 too.
    car computer rev 5: 8" lilliput and usual suspects

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    • #3
      Me three
      2006 Chevy Colorado: VIA M10000 EDEN, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB 2.5" Seagate HDD, USB Slim Slot DVD/RW, Holux GPS, MobileVU 10.4" LCD (touch not working yet), VOOMPC Case (blue), 70W DC-DC supply.

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      • #4
        I guess nobody loves us!

        The next car I buy will have, as its main criterium (well, not quite main), meeting the needs of a car computer!
        car computer rev 5: 8" lilliput and usual suspects

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        • #5
          OBD-II is standardized(at least the software layer is), OBD is not.You are not likely to find any info on OBD, since different manufacturers use their own protocols, and are not likely to let info on them go public.Alot of OBD vehicles aren't even capable of streaming data out of the ECU, their diagnostic capabilities are limited to flashing lights corresponding to stored codes.Various projects around the net have dissected some OEM ecu's and learned their protocols, but the list is short.

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          • #6
            I also have OBD1 in my 94 Integra. Sucks because I too would like datalogging. I am not going this route, but if any of you are interested let me know, because I have a good friend off of the Honda-Tech.com forum that can convert your OBD1-OBD2, only problem is that when emissions comes, more info is displayed to emissions people about your engine, thus making it less likely to pass emissions, especially if you are running any kind of turbo or supercharger setup. Anyway, let me know.
            Tim
            Looking to buy or sell a home in Southeastern CT?
            Click here: timfrederick.prudentialct.com

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            • #7
              Just found that Hondata do Datalogging but at a cost. They wanted 155 just to enable it but if you have a Honda running OBD1 and also have Hondata you can get this enabled much easier.

              Not much help I'm affraid if you don't drive a Honda.

              Probs with running OBD2 with an OBD1 car is that (Mainly Honda) you are unable to have much ECU work done to tune the motor on OBD2. Currently people with OBD2 ecu's are going to OBD1 setups because they are much more flexible.

              Regards

              Chris
              1992 Honda Civic EG9 Saloon VTi
              Shuttle XPC SS51G
              Intel 2.4 Ghz
              GeForce 2 GTS Pro 64 m. DDR on a Lilliput 7" T/S
              1024meg PC2700 DDR
              60 Gig 7,200 Drive
              16X DVD
              Haicom H-203-E GPS
              Zippy Mini-EL Keyboard
              Opus 150watt PSU

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              • #8
                www.pgmfi.org
                Great place, dont ask stupid/noob questions

                www.ecucontrol.com
                Some ROM's to download and put onto your ECU to allow datalogging.

                Also if you search www.pgmfi.org you will find a program called cuddle which is similar to ecucontrol but looks a lot better.

                If you need someone to burn you a ROM or sort out your ECU ready for this, I have a few spare and a burner.

                Dave
                [email protected]

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                • #9
                  I guess for anyone like me who isn't an electronics major we are SOL. but thanks anyways.

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                  • #10
                    I used google and did some research.
                    Then I bought a ROM burner and a soldering iron.
                    Honestly, it aint rocket science

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                    • #11
                      guys check out www.autoxray.com ... it does OBD1 ... google autoxray and you'll find it everywhere. its also all over ebay
                      2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1
                      Specs: Epia M2-1000, 512mb ram, SB Audigy NX, Lilliput 7" Touchscreen, M2-ATX, DVD, 160gb HDD, gps, obdII, wifi, bluetooth, XM radio, HQCT and Logitech wireless gamepad.
                      Install Status: DONE

                      My XM FAQ

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                      • #12
                        how do we know if we have a OBD port on an older car??

                        I have a toyota corolla 1990 and have no clue about a OBD port, but I know the garage wants me to pay 60$ to connect to the onboard system of my engine for verifications... lol

                        I guess I have some sort of data access port, but I don't know what it would be.

                        is there a way for me to find out?
                        -Mars

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                        • #13
                          I have obd1 on my 350 chevy. I was able to connect up for under $100, less if you like to collect parts and solder. Software is free. My ECU has a flash programmable eprom. I have one tune for milage and one for power. I can data log and read trouble codes. There's a cool virtual gauge program available too.

                          All it took was a few nights of digging through the internet. google seems to have really gone to ***** recently. They changed their engine a few months ago, now it real easy to find places to buy stuff but it's real hard to find places with info on how to make your own. they sold out. I use dogpile and yahoo when google lets me down.
                          Chris Krug
                          owner, turbine minivan
                          http://www.youtube.com/krugtech

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by turbochris
                            I have obd1 on my 350 chevy. I was able to connect up for under $100, less if you like to collect parts and solder. Software is free. My ECU has a flash programmable eprom. I have one tune for milage and one for power. I can data log and read trouble codes. There's a cool virtual gauge program available too.

                            All it took was a few nights of digging through the internet. google seems to have really gone to ***** recently. They changed their engine a few months ago, now it real easy to find places to buy stuff but it's real hard to find places with info on how to make your own. they sold out. I use dogpile and yahoo when google lets me down.
                            how bout some links to start us out? i've spent much time on google etc to no avail.

                            Rob
                            car computer rev 5: 8" lilliput and usual suspects

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                            • #15
                              Here ya go, and here
                              Chris Krug
                              owner, turbine minivan
                              http://www.youtube.com/krugtech

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