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    Hello all. I'm planning on a completely custom dashboard and center console for my 2000 Dodge Durango (worklog). I have a question regarding the passenger airbag. What should I do to fabricate over it while allowing it to work?

    Thanks!

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    Do not cover or block it at all.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by TruckinMP3 View Post
      Do not cover or block it at all.
      What he said.

      Don't forget that you not only want the airbag to still work as designed, you don't want pieces of your custom (fiberglass?) dash being blown into the eye socket of the person sittign in front of the airbag when it goes off.

      Also, you might find that changing your dash so much that is inhibits the airbag is not only extremely dangerous but a vehicle defect and the 5-0 might want to hit you up with a fine/vehicle inspection down the track.
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      • #4
        Thanks, I guess I'll see what I can come up with. The existing dash over the air bag feels like a lightweight plastic that flips up. I might take a look at doing some sort of cloth with perforations on the back side.

        Thanks again.

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        • #5
          If you take a look at the new Suzuki Swifts, they're dash is simlar to what you are describing. In the girlfriends swift, you can faintly make out the edge of the flaps on the passenger side of the dash that will split when the airbag goes off. If you think of the top of a cereal box (without the little side flaps on the edges), it's just some lightweight plastic that fold open when the airbag goes off.

          The problem would be testing it though. You would surley want to make a proof of concept before shoving it into you car. You wouldn't want it not opening up like it should in the event of a crash.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by NiSlo View Post
            The problem would be testing it though.
            Good point! I'll see what else I can do, or what's been done.

            Thanks!

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            • #7
              i don't know about messing with it at all... not saying it can't be done, but in my opinion it's absolutely foolish to make changes to the SRS system without knowing the slightest bit about what kind of testing and engineering went into it to make it a safety feature.

              Remember that for all intents and purposes, airbags are explosives that are designed to deploy from a specific structure in a very specific way.

              Even the most minor modification, such as the cloth you suggest is going to affect the deployment of the airbag. Again, this is something calibrated to blow through a specific panel and meet your face in mere milliseconds without generating the kind of force that causes more injuries than it prevents.

              Anything you stick in front of that constitutes a potential delay of deployment or even complete failure of that system... even if it's just a piece of cloth that wasn't there in the engineering model at design time. When the difference between a soft landing and picking a radio knob out of my skull is such a small period of time, i'll take all the time i can get.

              I don't say very many things can't be done, but i'd say even the most engineering/electrical/fabrication savvy of us here would be woefully unequipped to adequately deal with that kind of project. That said, i think for your own safety and the safety of your passengers, it should not be done.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by GoHybrid View Post
                i don't know about messing with it at all... not saying it can't be done, but in my opinion it's absolutely foolish to make changes to the SRS system without knowing the slightest bit about what kind of testing and engineering went into it to make it a safety feature.

                Remember that for all intents and purposes, airbags are explosives that are designed to deploy from a specific structure in a very specific way.

                Even the most minor modification, such as the cloth you suggest is going to affect the deployment of the airbag. Again, this is something calibrated to blow through a specific panel and meet your face in mere milliseconds without generating the kind of force that causes more injuries than it prevents.

                Anything you stick in front of that constitutes a potential delay of deployment or even complete failure of that system... even if it's just a piece of cloth that wasn't there in the engineering model at design time. When the difference between a soft landing and picking a radio knob out of my skull is such a small period of time, i'll take all the time i can get.

                I don't say very many things can't be done, but i'd say even the most engineering/electrical/fabrication savvy of us here would be woefully unequipped to adequately deal with that kind of project. That said, i think for your own safety and the safety of your passengers, it should not be done.
                Very well put, and...seconded. No purely cosmetic mod is worth compromising your safety. Period.

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                • #9
                  Thanks guys, I guess I'll just repaint the stock dash.

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                  • #10
                    Paint over the airbag cover is not a good idea. It can change the function by messing up the physical characteristics of the cover.

                    If you do anything to the safety features of your car you could cause someone to be very hurt and could be liable for the injuries.

                    DO NOT MAKE CHANGES
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                    • #11
                      I agree. DO NOT do anything whatsoever to change the characteristics of the airbag or the way in which it deploys. I don't think you'd like it too much when your passenger sues you for massive head injuries.
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                      • #12
                        Maybe you can buy a cover that is the color you want and replace it? Maybe you could ask some questions at a dodge dealership? Their service department might be nice enough to tell you the correct way to get the color you want and you won't have to worry about messing up the functionality if you ever need the airbag. Good luck.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks everyone,

                          I've revised my plans, I'll take what McChevy said and try and find a Grey/Black version of that part of the dashboard and do my custom work on the rest.

                          Thanks again

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                          • #14
                            I don't see the harm in painting it....
                            How different is a few layers of paint compared to a few layers of dust that is on most dashes anyway?
                            I am no expert, but I was very surprised that so many people here felt that paint was still too extreme of a modification
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                            • #15
                              i have to agree that paint should be no big deal.. heck on my 98 corvette a lil of the factory paint that was used on the airbag cover is flaking. I can't see how a thin coat of paint would be a difference. With the amount of force an airbag is deployed under i can't see how a layer of paint would make a difference. It's basically a controlled explosion in your dash. I vote for paint nothing more. Because of he force any object laying over it could become a projectile.

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