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    I am building a custom center console that will be able to house my computer and lilliput but also be usable as storage space when i take the computer out. I havent gotten very far yet. I am going to coat the mdf in bondo and paint it to make it smoother and to hide the screws. I am going to put cherry veneer down in the middle of the console between the rails. The rest of it will be painted black. Should I glue the veneer straight on the mdf in the middle or should i bondo the middle and attach the veneer onto that somehow? Any other general tips would be great!







  • #2
    Wow, thats cool..... I have a question though.... isnt the area were you put your arm too high? Also wouldnt it look better to have the center console wrapped in the same leather as the seat, then the cherry veneer going down the middle?
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    • #3
      yea it is a little high, but the thing is with the old comp im using im gonna need it that high, also its actually at a very comfortable place for my arm to rest. Im not completely sure about it yet, i may bring it down a bit. It would be cool to wrap it in vinyl like the seats. However i dont know where i can get vinyl to match and it will probably be pretty expensive. Also im not sure about how neat and tight i could make it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by figfry View Post
        yea it is a little high, but the thing is with the old comp im using im gonna need it that high, also its actually at a very comfortable place for my arm to rest. Im not completely sure about it yet, i may bring it down a bit. It would be cool to wrap it in vinyl like the seats. However i dont know where i can get vinyl to match and it will probably be pretty expensive. Also im not sure about how neat and tight i could make it.
        Your hooking up a classic car, I would do it the way they would have done it. i dont think bondo will achieve that original look... but I could be wrong, i am no expert. I am actually in the process of designing my rear console, again. The first one didnt look OEM. It cost me $250.00 to have wraped in vinyl. Go to a fabrics store, they may have the kind you need. The $250.00 I paid was in labor. The fabric was only like $18.00.
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        • #5
          yea i went out and looked at it again, turns out the computer wont fit in it anyway, i didnt compensate for the big graphics card, so ill just put it in the trunk i suppose. The comp and screen are only temporary. I dont really want a computer in there, however its my only car so i dont have another vehicle to live out my carputer fantasies in. hahaha. I like the vinyl idea, i went and checked it out. I think i could do it myself, especially if its only 18 bucks for fabric, that will allow me plenty of second chances. My only concern is that all it takes is something a little sharp to snag on the vinyl and bam thats it, id have to do the whole thing over again. Im leaning towards endurance more than factory. I have also thought about using carpet. My idea with the bondo is that i can make it all smooth and use several coats of gloss or semi gloss paint and get a similar sheen that dash has, its painted steel. But i dunno, what are your thoughts?

          also, i will be making it shorter, it would be silly for me to make it oddly tall just to compensate something that is going to be temporary anyway. i think ill take between 1 and 2.5 inches off.

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          • #6
            HEHE, I bought my truck originally for me and my family (4 Dogs), Since i take them only once a week to the park, that left me driving a big regular SUV. I had to hook it up... I really dont think you will have snagging issues, otherwise your seats wouldnt be mad out of the stuff. I have 3 rows of seats and all are vinyl. My Driver side has a small rip, but the rest looks like new. The first console i built was to wide and the seats would hit it on the side, but now once did it rip or anything. I myself have been guggling the vinyl idea or duraglass idea...... problem is, if I go with Duraglass, the texture wont match my front center console. Also the arm rest is vinyl, plastic and vinyl wont match. If i go vinyl i will have to be ontop of the guy... he used special glue thats stained the vinyl, which he covered with vinyl paint and caused the vinyl to not match my car. The new console is more complex inside, but outside I made it easier to wrap. If you look at my worklog you can see the issues I had.
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            • #7
              yea, you dont think the screws will snag the vinyl from the inside? The more i look at the vinyl the more i think it would be appropriate. Where did you buy your vinyl, hobby lobby or some place? or some mom and pop fabric store? Yea if the rest of your vehicle is vinyl then i wouldnt use duraglass, it is way too smooth and wont match. I think i could get away with just buying a little over a yard. It is only going to cover those two sides, they are 48 in long. I can get it online but im hesitant about buying a fabric i cant hold in my hands and see the color of. I checked out your pics, looks pretty nice. Ill look at them some more later.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by figfry View Post
                yea, you dont think the screws will snag the vinyl from the inside? The more i look at the vinyl the more i think it would be appropriate. Where did you buy your vinyl, hobby lobby or some place? or some mom and pop fabric store? Yea if the rest of your vehicle is vinyl then i wouldnt use duraglass, it is way too smooth and wont match. I think i could get away with just buying a little over a yard. It is only going to cover those two sides, they are 48 in long. I can get it online but im hesitant about buying a fabric i cant hold in my hands and see the color of. I checked out your pics, looks pretty nice. Ill look at them some more later.
                NO.... that looks like MDF. Did you use MDF screws? Most are flat head, so they should be flush with the wood. Also padding goes inbetween the MDF and the vinyl. The vinyl is attached from the bottom and from the inside and what not. The guy that did mine made it so your couldnt see staples or anything.
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                • #9
                  Does the padding come with the vinyl? like its attached as a backing? I cut off the excess now on the top, this is now what it looks like, i think its much cleaner.


                  Where did you get your vinyl?

                  I think i can get it at joanns, im going to go there now and check it out.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by figfry View Post
                    Does the padding come with the vinyl? like its attached as a backing? I cut off the excess now on the top, this is now what it looks like, i think its much cleaner.


                    Where did you get your vinyl?

                    I think i can get it at joanns, im going to go there now and check it out.
                    That does look better.... No it is something you have to buy seperate. Although vinyl already has a white padding, you have to add more.
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                    • #11
                      got the vinyl, the backing on it seems pretty tough as is. I think ill just counter sink the screws to make sure they dont poke through, the vinyl was hella cheap. I think ill take the excess and make a shift boot with it. I think it will be best if i put the veneer on the inter panels first then vinyl one side, drop the veneer panel in and put in screws, then wrap the other side of the vinyl and secure it that way all the screws and hardware will be under the vinyl so it cant be seen. Problem is i have to wait for the veneers to come in now before i can do anything serious. For now ill just sand everything smooth and cut out all the parts i need.

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                      • #12
                        Please take HiJackZX1's advice and use padding underneath the vinyl. You won't believe how much difference it makes -- you'll be way, way happier with the result if you use padding. Unpadded vinyl looks amateurish, and you can make it look pro easily; this stuff isn't hard to use.

                        Ask at Joann's Fabrics -- they'll show you the material you want. It's cheap.
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                        • #13
                          joanns is where i got the vinyl, what is it felt? cause usually people in stores around here dont know crap about anything. Also any tips about forming the vinyl around corners, i can work the convex corners easy, but the concave corners are tricky.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by figfry View Post
                            joanns is where i got the vinyl, what is it felt? cause usually people in stores around here dont know crap about anything.
                            There are a couple of different kinds that I've used. One is actually foam, available in thicknesses from about 1/16 inch on up. I used 1/8" in the denser stuff, and 3/8" in the lighter stuff. Another type is a loosely woven fiber material; one version of it is called Fiberfill, but I used the type that comes in rolls. Here's an article about padding.

                            Your padding thickness will be determined by how soft you want the sides to be; take your vinyl in and try each kind 'til you find what you want.

                            I'd bet someone at Joann's has a clue; maybe you talked to a clerk instead of a crafty lady. Look for the manager or someone the manager recommends; they'll keep you going in the right direction.

                            Originally posted by figfry View Post
                            Also any tips about forming the vinyl around corners, i can work the convex corners easy, but the concave corners are tricky.
                            The vinyl simply wants to go across concave areas, not sink into them. If it's a long concave area like an inside corner, you could staple the vinyl into the corner, and put a bead along there (the Joann's people can show you how to make bead). Or cut the vinyl at the corner and fasten both parts with or without a bead. For indented areas, you may have to resort to a covered button; again, the Joann Fabrics folks can show you how.

                            Check out this MP3Car thread.

                            Hit upholster.com for some how-to advice.

                            Here's an article on seat upholstery.

                            Use to look for other tutorials and get more information.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rdholtz View Post
                              Please take HiJackZX1's advice and use padding underneath the vinyl. You won't believe how much difference it makes -- you'll be way, way happier with the result if you use padding. Unpadded vinyl looks amateurish, and you can make it look pro easily; this stuff isn't hard to use.

                              Ask at Joann's Fabrics -- they'll show you the material you want. It's cheap.
                              RDHOLTZ is right, infact RDHOLTZ kept me from making the mistake about the padding. Alot of people assume the thin padding on the vinyl already will be enough. When you apply the glue and what not, it will form bubbles and show imperfections. I confirmed this with the upholster that did my console and he had 30 years experience. The padding will not make your console look bulky or anything.... Here is how my old one turned out. If you want I can rip it open and see what thickness padding he used.




                              PS: I think 3/8 is the one the guy used on mine...
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