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  • 98 Honda Civic Lilli Bezel Fabrication

    Hey Guys. First off, let me say I really appreciate all the resources and advice that this site and its users provide. Can I get a little input from someone who has a little more experience with this matter. Ok, here we go:


    I have this ----


    I'm trying to implement a 7 in wide screen liliput(EB701) and a slim us cd/dvd-rw drive. Thing is, I DONT wanna move the AC controls(anywhere you put them would look ridicoulous, even with a custum enclosure), so I think my only way out is to close up and cover the vents. In the process of doing that, I would remove the stock radio and storage hole to the side, and cut out the little pieces that separate the radio and the vents, plus the piece in between the two vents. Now my problem begins. That space would be way to big, so I require glassing to make some type of frame.

    My question is, what material would support it the best? I've seen people use cardboard soaked in resin, and also wood. The card board would be easy to cut and shape to perfection, but would it be sturdy enough? The wood would have plenty of support, but i have no type of tools to cut it with. Also, what would I glue it with?

    I forgot to mention that I'm recessing it, which causes more issues. I'm not too particular about going through the whole removing buttons process, but all the same, I don't want the buttons showing. That creates the problem about fabbing a proper frame. I was thinking of maybe making the dimensions of my recessed walls only the size of the lcd itself, not the whole casing, where i can some how flush mount the entire lilli to the back of it. Maybe now you can see why I'm so worried about support. Is ther any kind of pre-fab frame that I could use to avoid taking weeks trying to smooth out the insides of my created recessed walls? That way I could just worry about only molding in the frame and the drive.

    Any...I mean ANY help will be appreciated. I've searched the forums, and nobody has any info on modding this model civic without messing with the ac controls. Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    What about moving your vents up on top of the dash, I don't think that would be too hard to actually pull off.

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    • #3
      I would go for a 8inch since you got the place...if you didnt already bought your screen, go for the transflective liliput from the mp3car store...it definitely worth the BUY!!!

      Moving the temp control shoudnt be to hard, just dismental your dash and see what are your options.... then you'll have to to some bundo (Lucky you) I wish I had another project like that...Its so nice to work on a bezel project

      good luck bro! and keep on posting!!
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      • #4
        If I were to do this job, I would defintely fiberglass it in.

        If I were you I would build a little wood frame out of .25 square dowel wood. As you said you would have that frame fit the sides of the screen. Then I would cut away all the plastic.

        I would center the bezel reccessed back with dowels. Then I would stretch my fleece, which is going to give me that shape I want. After that I would sand down the fleece, grind the edges and add probably one layer of 1.5oz mat.

        Once that is all sanded down, you just have to follow the process of filler, sand, filler sand, primer, fill, sand etc etc paint

        Hope This Helps
        Brian @Nexations Creations

        Specialist in Custom Interior Fiberglass OEM Replication Work.

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        • #5
          how mine looks

          I have a similar project (except on a 96 civic), First i considered cutting off the vents just like you're suggesting but ended up relocating the heat/ac control unit down above the cup holders. In my opinion it doesn't look that bad, and didn't require a lot of work at all, just some x-acto action.

          here are some pictures:




          Now, it is not fully screwed it so it appears as if it is not properly aligned but once it is done it will look just like it belongs there.

          If you are interested in doing this i can upload more pictures showing what parts were modified to fit this in perfectly.
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          • #6
            Moving the climate controls looks like a much better alternative than giving up the climate control vents.
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            If just enough is really good, then too much ought to be perfect.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Untraceable View Post
              I have a similar project (except on a 96 civic), First i considered cutting off the vents just like you're suggesting but ended up relocating the heat/ac control unit down above the cup holders. In my opinion it doesn't look that bad, and didn't require a lot of work at all, just some x-acto action.

              here are some pictures:




              Now, it is not fully screwed it so it appears as if it is not properly aligned but once it is done it will look just like it belongs there.

              If you are interested in doing this i can upload more pictures showing what parts were modified to fit this in perfectly.
              That's exactly what I have planned for my wife's '98 Civic. Did you end up having to modify the selector cables or anything, or did it all reach down there okay?

              I'd be interested in more pics, if you've got 'em. Also interested in seeing the final product.
              Greedy
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              • #8
                Cables reach great, I just had to cut some plastic off of the back of the heat/ac control, remove some metal brackets(simple unscrewing), and did some precision(not really) x-acto work on the piece that's connected to the cup holder.

                Once i get home from work i will post pictures of the parts removed and modified to make it fit.
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                • #9
                  aahhh finally home...

                  heres some pictures of the ac unit relocation in my car.





                  as you can see all cables and wires reach comfortably





                  carefully hack this part with some sort of sharp object





                  this corner needs to go to fit in smoothly, make sure not to cut too much or the hot/cold cable wont be able to stay in



                  some more chopping. careful and don't cut off a finger or toe....









                  as you can see it fits good and with some minor gluing/cementing/etc... will look like it belongs there.



                  oh these suckers need to go out by the way.



                  to poster - this might not be the most practical location to put the ac/heater controls but it beats giving up your 2 central vents that help enormously when its 110 degrees outside(my case in south cali at summer) or is really cold in the winter time(Montana or something).

                  hope i could be of at least minimal help.

                  peace
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                  • #10
                    I appreciate all the info! You guys are great and full of helpful ideas. But...I was planning on using that space on top of the cup holders for my pioneer, being I was going to run my audio through it using a bus cable. bemenaker...Putting the vents on top of the dash sounds interesting, but would it be effective? The air would be blowing up to the windshield like the defroster, wouldn't it?

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                    • #11
                      another idea

                      this might take some more fab work but...



                      or something along the lines of...
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                      • #12
                        If you moved your vents up higher, you would have to watch how the deflectors work or possibly make new ones. I would think you would probably still get air flow blowing a little high, which is great for cooling, but, depends on how it would done I guess.

                        Ohh, I just realized what Untraceable is saying there, that's a good idea.

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                        • #13
                          Nice untraceable.....but WAYYYYY outta my league. I going out on a limb doing the glassing myyself, but making custum vents? lol, i dont know about that one! it is worth looking into though. my biggest question is how to actually divert the air flow down there? oh and dare i ask, how would i "create" those vents? The more I look at it, the more i wanna do it.

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                          • #14
                            http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...o-oh-yeah.html

                            specifically around page 7 he works with vents abit.

                            probably easiest thing to do is bypass the vents all together at the risk of comfort.
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