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    It seems that about 8 out of 10 times that I have to remove a door panel, gauge cluster, radio bezel, yata, yata, yata, it ends up popping, creaking, or snapping on reassembly, no matter how cautious I am removing the screws, clips, or snaps. I always use the little weirdo-looking trim removal tool that looks like a flat head screwdriver with the tip angled out and notched in the center, and I (almost) always squirt a little silicone lube in before prying, hoping to minimize breakage.
    I try to secure any wiring plugs out of the way so that they maybe won't clatter after reassembly, and I pay special attention to door dust seals.
    Despite all of this, I get creaks and pops more times than not!
    I was wondering how some of you heavy fabricators correct/prevent this?
    Or do I just need to turn the stereo up louder?
    Thanks, folks, and I hope everybody's enjoying the warmer weather.

    Alan

  • #2
    i use a little silicone sealant where the panels and screws etc touch together, just a tiny dab is usually enough to stop creaks, just dont get it where its visible!
    good luck
    frug
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    • #3
      i run the audio loud anyways, but for those times in between songs, i try to carefully pry off/on my panels so that they go on like they came off--the ones that i mess with usually don't rattle(though my subs are starting to mess with some rear trim pieces).

      i usually use whatever is closest to me to pop the panel off-- usually a normal screwdriver, and my fingers
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      • #4
        You mean you're using this?

        Most of the times I use this instead I actually ended up that one and a set like this. I use the service manual too. [edited: first link was bad, fixed it]

        A lot of times it's worth looking on how each tab or clip works. On the Infiniti on the beginning of the manual there's a description of each kind of clip you'll figure it out how it works, some of them you really have to discard and buy new ones. Never actually had to, but I was prepared.
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        • #5
          RE: How to keep interior panels from popping and creaking?

          Guys, thanks for the input. I appreciate it.
          I've been doing some thinking on this since I posted it, and I'm realizing that practically ALL of the vehicles that I've modded have been older, with a minimum of 100k miles. Brittle, UV-cooked plastic and shrunken bumpers and pads, anyone?

          @RipplingHurst, that's the set I've been using for a long time. I found it for $5.00 several years ago at one of those "wholesale houses" that are springing up everywhere, and it's does everything I've needed it to.
          That second item looks like it would be good for getting you thrown in jail in several states.
          I like the looks of that last one- it looks like it would have less chance of scratching things than mine. I just might have to make an order to Amazon this week... Thanks for pointing it out for me.
          Lately I've been looking through forums whenever I have to take anything apart, and they've been great for supplying hints and tips for disassembly.

          @Soundman, I hear ya on taking your time getting stuff apart.

          @Frugmonkey, does it hold well enough using the little bit you can get by with before it starts oozing everywhere?

          Over the weekend I tried a couple experiments; molding and casting using silicone sealant for the mold and JB Weld for the casting, and using RTV for noise and pop-canceling. It turned out a lot better than I expected. When I have more time I'll see if I can put some documentation together for it.
          It should be...entertaining at least, because at one point I was using my bass on-stage cabinet with a 20-250-20Hz sweep playing @ a Gain and Volume of 7 on an Ampeg 1500w amp. My neighbors love me.

          Thanks again folks.

          Alan

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          • #6
            Depending on if there are screws or snaps I find it helps a bit to tighten the screws from the center out, applying pressure to the panel while they are all in but a little loose. Reused snaps won't hold as tight. That and the orignal tension between screws is a big problem. And then there's the screws themselves like what you're already talking about.

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            • #7
              I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread. Not much of a "gear head" most cases.. and only ever found one car that i REALLY liked. That being the one I finally got. So im a bit worried about that reassembly part.

              but I intend to dynamat my xB at some point and that's going to mean pulling everything apart.. which is just going to be fuuuun.
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              • #8
                I usually run a line of Friction tape along any parts that connect, it dampens any noise without much bulk. Seems to do a great job, I just had a hard time finding any. Ended up finding it in the Electrical at Home Depot.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chronoglass View Post
                  but I intend to dynamat my xB at some point and that's going to mean pulling everything apart.. which is just going to be fuuuun.
                  don't limit yourself to only dynamat brand sound dampening-- there are tons of other companies out there, and depending on the product, and usage, some will blow dynamat away.
                  My OLD 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT:
                  "The Project That Never Ended, until it did"


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                  carpc undecided

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                  • #10
                    ^^^ Exactly. As for sound deading, this guy's Tundra is certainly the best! I'd love to do 1/10th of what he did!

                    Two layers of DampPro everywhere, and I mean everywhere. This is the dash with 80Lbs of that stuff.



                    And that's not all, oh no, not at all! He added 6 layers of Second Skin's Spectrum spray-on deadener. That's by the 3rd page, at this point I don't know what else he did to that truck.





                    Heh. Thread is here: Do you wanna see something psycho?



                    But don't be scared. I just wanted to say dynamat is not all there is to it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by soundman98 View Post
                      don't limit yourself to only dynamat brand sound dampening-- there are tons of other companies out there, and depending on the product, and usage, some will blow dynamat away.
                      all i've been looking at, but seeing some of these threads im seeing other brands/methods so that helps!
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                      • #12
                        Friction tape. Hmp. That's an interesting take on things. I'll have to try that. Thanks.
                        @Curiosity, no they don't hold NEARLY as well the second time around, do they? Especially after a few years.
                        This has me thinking about using expanding foam behind panels after testing to make sure it won't dissolve anything, and after coating all the surfaces with something to prevent adhesion. You could snug the parts down almost to where they're supposed to be, squirt a little foam around the mount points, and snug a little more.I might try that this weekend, too.


                        I'm glad this is sparking some Q & A. Even though it doesn't add 1 Mhz of CPU speed or 1 watt of audio power, it still has a large (at least to me, anyway) impact on the "perceived" quality of the final install.

                        I appreciate all the suggestions and comments.
                        Alan

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                        • #13
                          Don't use expanding foam. Like "great Stuff" from Home D or any other. Expanding foam become rigid, so instead of having hard plastic hit again sheet metal, you'll have hard foam hitting against sheet metal. You need something that will always have give to it, like second skin, raamat, or that friction tape.

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                          • #14
                            ALWAYS, somebody telling me that I can't use what I already have on hand. You been talking to my wife?
                            Of course, I kid. Thanks for the heads up. That would have been aggravating, to say the least.

                            I might have a great test-bed coming along-my neighbor's son is moving up my way from Tampa and is bringing his 72 Monte Carlo. It had the engine and trans replaced with later model units before he bought it, so the antique value is already lost, and he wants to do a full power/car pc upgrade; power windows, locks, and trunk lid, 8-10 inch touch screen, integrated climate control, backup camera, and, if he gets the aftermarket fuel injection, key-less push button start. (His pockets are a lot deeper than mine.)

                            Wow, what a project. I can't wait! If he doesn't change his mind about the whole thing, I made him promise to help me keep a good work log and post it as we go. It looks like a mid to late summer start date right now.

                            Later,

                            Alan

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