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    Ok well, I figured I'd post this here becuase there are lots of great fabricators here and I'm sure you guys can help me along with this project and pass me some helpful tips.



    And my plan as of now.

    Ignore that 1st mid all the way to the left, I will not be putting it anymore. The sub will either be 8 or 10 inches.

    Here's the rough sketch. (Rear Left Door Panel)

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    1993 Lexus SC300-Turbo (Totaled by idiot driver)
    1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
    1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
    1994 Toyota Camry- (sold)

  • #2
    if get rid of the middle nid too.you dont want two drivers pushing the same freq. you'll get some funky sounds and cancelation
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    • #3
      What if one was higher than the other? Would I still get cancelation?

      Like If I put it here:



      OR

      1999 Lexus GS300- (going VIP)
      1993 Lexus SC300-Turbo (Totaled by idiot driver)
      1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
      1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
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      • #4
        I have an extra set of door skins if you would like em. I had gotten them for the same idea to paint/fiberglass em, but never got around to it. This way you could use them and not worry about messin your up.

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        • #5
          Hey, that would be great! Can you PM me the details? Thanks!
          1999 Lexus GS300- (going VIP)
          1993 Lexus SC300-Turbo (Totaled by idiot driver)
          1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
          1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
          1994 Toyota Camry- (sold)

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          • #6
            what scott-fx was referring to is the fact that the speakers produce the same frequencies, so if you have multiple of the same speaker pushing the same frequencies you're going to have a really hot range of frequencies.

            First question I have is this...why? why do you want to do this? simply for looks? if that's the case, then go with all of those speakers, but it will sound like ****.

            Second question i have is this...why? Even if you're going for Sound Quality, it's going to sound like ****.

            Building a frame for the door like this is a very intensive process. ESPECIALLY when you're talking about putting a sub in there. If this car is to be driven on a regular basis you're going to hate live, ESPECIALLY when you have a passenger who isn't thinking and who slams the door shut. Not to mention the additional weight on the hinges, it will cause your doors to sag and mean you have nasty irregular gaps in your seams.

            If you're asking how to do something like this, it tells me that you have very little to no experience with fiberglass/bondo/fabrication in general. As such, i would NOT, I repeat, would NOT attempt this as a beginner project. You need to learn how to build bracing for these speakers, how to make your seams match, how to secure something like this and how to build it to where it will last.

            Start out with something simple like flushing in a monitor into a dash, then move onto building a custom subwoofer enclosure, then a set of custom kick pannels for mids, and THEN MAYBE move onto a completely new door skin.

            Good luck.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Red GTi VR6
              what scott-fx was referring to is the fact that the speakers produce the same frequencies, so if you have multiple of the same speaker pushing the same frequencies you're going to have a really hot range of frequencies.

              First question I have is this...why? why do you want to do this? simply for looks? if that's the case, then go with all of those speakers, but it will sound like ****.

              Second question i have is this...why? Even if you're going for Sound Quality, it's going to sound like ****.

              Building a frame for the door like this is a very intensive process. ESPECIALLY when you're talking about putting a sub in there. If this car is to be driven on a regular basis you're going to hate live, ESPECIALLY when you have a passenger who isn't thinking and who slams the door shut. Not to mention the additional weight on the hinges, it will cause your doors to sag and mean you have nasty irregular gaps in your seams.

              If you're asking how to do something like this, it tells me that you have very little to no experience with fiberglass/bondo/fabrication in general. As such, i would NOT, I repeat, would NOT attempt this as a beginner project. You need to learn how to build bracing for these speakers, how to make your seams match, how to secure something like this and how to build it to where it will last.

              Start out with something simple like flushing in a monitor into a dash, then move onto building a custom subwoofer enclosure, then a set of custom kick pannels for mids, and THEN MAYBE move onto a completely new door skin.

              Good luck.

              I should have mentioned it's for a show car. The sub I'm not entirely sure about yet, mainly becuase of the weight alone.

              So far I've used fiberglass to mold a 17 inch monitor and component set into my trunk lid.
              1999 Lexus GS300- (going VIP)
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              1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
              1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
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              • #8
                rather than spending all that time and money dood get nice set of component speakers.... add the 7 inch screens there sure but i dunno about goin that all out... if u do decide to then props man.... i know i wouldent have the balls to do that

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                • #9
                  if you don't do the sub, it should be fairly straight forward. With the sub though, you're talking a whole nother ball game. You've got to build support to hold it there, build an enclosure for it to play in and keep the depth of a sub in mind. An 8" might be feasible, a 10" will take a LOT of work.

                  Have you taken the door skin off to see what the frame of the door looks like to see how much room you have to work with back there?

                  I'm curious, what kind of a show car are you building? Things like this aren't exactly taken on by newbies to fabrication and expected to turn out looking good.

                  This requires much more than just fiberglass fwiw.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by civicguy604
                    rather than spending all that time and money dood get nice set of component speakers.... add the 7 inch screens there sure but i dunno about goin that all out... if u do decide to then props man.... i know i wouldent have the balls to do that
                    I think you missed the part where this is supposedly a show car....meaning common sense has no place, and over the top, completely useless installs are the best....one reason I hate show car installs....lol
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Red GTi VR6
                      if you don't do the sub, it should be fairly straight forward. With the sub though, you're talking a whole nother ball game. You've got to build support to hold it there, build an enclosure for it to play in and keep the depth of a sub in mind. An 8" might be feasible, a 10" will take a LOT of work.

                      Have you taken the door skin off to see what the frame of the door looks like to see how much room you have to work with back there?

                      I'm curious, what kind of a show car are you building? Things like this aren't exactly taken on by newbies to fabrication and expected to turn out looking good.

                      This requires much more than just fiberglass fwiw.
                      An 8 inch is what I was thinking about. I removed the door skin last night right after I took the picture, I should have taken a picture of that! But there is a good amount of clearance, and if anything there is room for me to extend the speakers out If I have to.

                      I've already done some research and gone through many progress pictures and final shots of people who have done similar to get an idea of the process and how its done.

                      But I'm doing the things I know I can do. Something like fiberglassing my dashboard I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, but its easy to replace a door panel if you screw up, a dash is a whole different story. It will get done, just far from now.

                      I don't even know what kind of show car this will be, I didnt think there was more than one type =P

                      For now though I just thought I'd experment and screw around a bit just to see if I can really do it. I had fun doing my trunk and I figured why not do the doors, it should be fun too.

                      As far as materials go, I'd need the resin, putty and bondoglass wouldnt i?
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                      1993 Lexus SC300-Turbo (Totaled by idiot driver)
                      1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
                      1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
                      1994 Toyota Camry- (sold)

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                      • #12
                        Red is right...try something more simple first. my first time doing anything with fiberglass was a set of custom kick panels to house a 4 way 6.5" in my front doors...not so easy that it wasn't a challenge but not difficult so much as to get frusterated. they came out great and i'm glad i did it..just take your time and don't cut corners...a full door would probably be too much for a first timer without anyone right there helping. good luck!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Curry
                          I don't even know what kind of show car this will be, I didnt think there was more than one type =P
                          If it's the 94 camry in your sig, it's going to take a LOT of work to be a show stopper, which i'm gathering you are going for since you're going for doors this crazy.

                          Car show show car or Car Audio show car? demo vehicle or pimp my ride type show car?

                          For now though I just thought I'd experment and screw around a bit just to see if I can really do it. I had fun doing my trunk and I figured why not do the doors, it should be fun too.
                          go for it then. Have fun and be sure to post pictures.

                          As far as materials go, I'd need the resin, putty and bondoglass wouldnt i?
                          that's what I'm talking about. that's a typical newbie mind set to fiberglass...I mean, that's all there is to this stuff, isn't it?!

                          No...there's a ****E load more to it. To do it properly you're going to want to look into professional body materials for starters.

                          Every heard of kitty hair or Duraglass or dynaglass? Just a tip of the iceberg.
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                          • #14
                            Yes it is the 94' camry in my sig.

                            It will take lots of work, but I'm sure we can make it work.

                            Aside from the from my crazy doors I have plans to mount 4 10 inch subs in my rear deck.

                            My center armrest/console ill be adding a screen at the back end of it, so it faces the rear seats.

                            I'm getting rid of that 700 IDT and fabbing in a xenarc 7 inch and moving the headunit into the glovebox.

                            And I've got to get my sunvisors LCD's finished.


                            Car show show car or Car Audio show car? demo vehicle or pimp my ride type show car?
                            Car show show car but it could go in the direction of demo vehicle or pimp my ride style.


                            that's what I'm talking about. that's a typical newbie mind set to fiberglass...I mean, that's all there is to this stuff, isn't it?!
                            I've heard of those yes, the reason i assumed that was all is becuase 90% of the installs I looked at used those materials. The rest just didnt list materials. but yes I have heard of those materials. I'm looking up info on it now.
                            1999 Lexus GS300- (going VIP)
                            1993 Lexus SC300-Turbo (Totaled by idiot driver)
                            1996 Lexus SC400- (Totaled by brother)
                            1972 Datsun 240Z- (WIP)
                            1994 Toyota Camry- (sold)

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                            • #15
                              most people don't go into depth and list that stuff.....but most any hard core installer knows that it will make their lives easier.
                              Jan Bennett
                              FS: VW MKIV Bezel for 8" Lilliput - 95% Finished

                              Please post on the forums! Chances are, someone else has or will have the same questions as you!

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