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    Alright.. i was going to put my auxiliary usb module onto my epia board when i realized.. wow this things is missing a pin. After consulting my handy little user's manual i find that it needs some sort of proprietary type module.. argh.

    Also It has something for video input .. not sure how you'd make use of that though..

    Anybody have any ideas or know where to get this piece?
    aka Kumaneko
    "Don't make me moderate your ***!"
    Maxima of Doom - project thread - photo gallery
    mp3car system is currently FUBAR and finances do not allow for a correction of that situation
    Real computer hackers use a rotary cutting tool on their motherboard.

  • #2
    which pin is missing?
    1999 voyager pontoon boat
    (soon to be computerized)

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    • #3
      normal usb header looks something like this

      ooooo
      oooo

      this one looks like this

      oooo
      oooo

      and the book says it uses nonstandard something or other
      aka Kumaneko
      "Don't make me moderate your ***!"
      Maxima of Doom - project thread - photo gallery
      mp3car system is currently FUBAR and finances do not allow for a correction of that situation
      Real computer hackers use a rotary cutting tool on their motherboard.

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      • #4
        dont take this a gospel, but sometimes the missing pin is used as a 'one way only' system..... I have even seen serial/parallel port pins on old AT mobo's with the same system....


        try getting a usb header cable/socket and pierce a small hole thru the missing bit ( love my explination!) using a small nail/pliers etc, so that the cable socket can accomodate the extra pin.... you might find that it will work..... this is what I needed to do with serial/parallel port cable sockets on mobo's of this type....


        hope that helps..
        Project - GAME OVER :(

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        • #5
          well that's not the problem.. the problem is that the standard connector is meant to connect to a 9 pin header.. this header only has 8

          looking at the connector .. there is only 8 useful ones.. but i don't want to screw this up and fry the board
          aka Kumaneko
          "Don't make me moderate your ***!"
          Maxima of Doom - project thread - photo gallery
          mp3car system is currently FUBAR and finances do not allow for a correction of that situation
          Real computer hackers use a rotary cutting tool on their motherboard.

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          • #6
            You're just going to have to get the pinouts for both and get creative
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            • #7
              hmmmmmm
              i have one of these and noticed that an i wasnt pleased either
              maybe you should try meialing via. they might be able to help?

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              • #8
                I think the extra pin is just an extra ground.

                I had never used the headers on the mobo for USB before I started my project.

                I used a multimeter and found the extra pin to be a ground, The sockets that plug onto the headers have got 5 wires in them but the last 2 are both grounds.

                Hope this makes sense.

                Possible reason for the extra pin on one of the sockets - I think it is used if you use a powered USB hub, as there would be more power returning to the mobo than it sends down the positive, because it is added to by the hub. (don't quote me on that though, cos really I have got no idea)

                You should be able to use your normal USB header socket, and it will overhand the header pins, but the wire that is not connected is just an 'extra' ground.

                Good luck!!!!
                It all looks a bit complicated to me

                1st attempt went OK, but was too slow. Next version is all onboard, will use push buttons on the com ports, got a 200MHz 6x86, 128MB RAM, Winamp. Sproggy 2.6 kit in progress. 12GB Laptop HDD. No case yet!

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                • #9
                  That's not necessarily true.. it may not be as simple as a missing pin.. They may be arranged in a different fashion.

                  Also the extra pin doesn't connect to anything.. it's like magnitek called it a "one way only" pin
                  aka Kumaneko
                  "Don't make me moderate your ***!"
                  Maxima of Doom - project thread - photo gallery
                  mp3car system is currently FUBAR and finances do not allow for a correction of that situation
                  Real computer hackers use a rotary cutting tool on their motherboard.

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                  • #10
                    The header (for usb as well as any thing else on this board) are mini-sized. A standard usb expansion card (with the 9 hole connector will not fit the pins anyway. A special sized plug is needed. The cdrom requires an older mini plug as well.

                    Ask your questions on forums.viaarena.com there is alot of info there.
                    [email protected] 1997 Blazer Dashpc Style!
                    VIA EPIA-M 9000 Hauppauge WinTv (FM tuner), 256 MB, 40 GB HD

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                    • #11
                      Guys,
                      I should be able to get whatever non-standard via epia hardware parts from my distributor. Im building something for him so he owes me big time. If im not mistaken, the pci is also non standard so u cant just use any pci riser card. I dont know how true it is...maybe someone can confirm this?

                      Tell me if u need anything


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                      • #12
                        Re: epia board & "nonstandard hardware"

                        http://www.mpja.com/ had some.
                        They have lots of surplus.

                        I found it by chance on there.
                        Whether or not it is pin compatible, I don't know.
                        But, you can easily re-arrange the pin outs on the mb connector...

                        Mario


                        Originally posted by ShinkunoNamida
                        Alright.. i was going to put my auxiliary usb module onto my epia board when i realized.. wow this things is missing a pin. After consulting my handy little user's manual i find that it needs some sort of proprietary type module.. argh.

                        Also It has something for video input .. not sure how you'd make use of that though..

                        Anybody have any ideas or know where to get this piece?

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                        • #13
                          Here are the pin outs! I'm trying to locate the correct sized plug in digikey and will post that when I figure it all out (for the usb and sound)

                          http://www.ultim8pc.co.uk/miscpics/epia_pin.pdf
                          [email protected] 1997 Blazer Dashpc Style!
                          VIA EPIA-M 9000 Hauppauge WinTv (FM tuner), 256 MB, 40 GB HD

                          Running Linux: Slackware 10.0, xmms, mplayer and Roadmap gps

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                          • #14
                            It'd be really nice to get that video input going too!
                            aka Kumaneko
                            "Don't make me moderate your ***!"
                            Maxima of Doom - project thread - photo gallery
                            mp3car system is currently FUBAR and finances do not allow for a correction of that situation
                            Real computer hackers use a rotary cutting tool on their motherboard.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Re: epia board & "nonstandard hardware"

                              Did anyone try this guy? It looks to me like it will work.

                              http://www.mpja.com/product.asp?product=11162+CB


                              Originally posted by m3rdpwr
                              http://www.mpja.com/ had some.
                              They have lots of surplus.

                              I found it by chance on there.
                              Whether or not it is pin compatible, I don't know.
                              But, you can easily re-arrange the pin outs on the mb connector...

                              Mario


                              2002 Z-71 Rolling with an ITX MOBO, 10.4" touchscreen, 40 Gig HD, and a DVD ROM.

                              http://www.truckputer.com

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