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    I am impressed with many of the Zotac boards. But they have a 1.6ghz atom CPU. I was wondering if this is usually enough for most carpc uses. I was also looking at an Intel BOXDH57JG motherboard with a Core i5 3.33GHz processor. I like the idea of this combination because I feel like it will continue to support my needs for other computing. Also, which would probably have a quicker boot time?

  • #2
    the atom is usually enough for a typical carpc-- ie: usually running music, gps, bluetooth and web.

    i run heavy audio processing in my own car, and so i updated to a dual core pentium, but still use the atom based mobo at home as a family computer-- with little noticable difference between that and a normal computer

    boot time varies widely with usb devices, bios options, and in some cases, the actual bios(this would be in the case of the intel 945glc board with a creative x-fi sound card-- the 2 will increase post time to +15-30 sec, with no other devices...)
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    • #3
      should i make the decision for my board based on the CPU or the features included on the board that would best suit my needs?

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      • #4
        Both, but I would say that features that you would need is more important. For basic CarPC functions like videos, music, gps, obdII, weather, phone, etc. Most atom, celeron, pentium, amd processors included with today's boards will do the trick. If you require certain features like serial port, sata HDs, dvi / vga, 6 channel onboard sound and so on, find boards that fit that and then compare processors to your liking. Remember that a lot of features you may want can be added in through USB if you can't find something that has everything you want.

        Also watch your power consumption. As a lot of us on these forums are computer savvy we tend to want "the best of whats out there", but many times for a CarPC it is just overkill. The more powerful of a PC you build the more expensive and difficult it will be to power properly in the car.

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        • #5
          is there any reason for a ps2 port anymore? i have a full function usb keyboard with a touchpad that is usually detected right away by even my oldest computer. i feel like i wouldnt use it because I'd rather have a board with something more useful in place of a PS2 port.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by moetpoppin View Post
            is there any reason for a ps2 port anymore? i have a full function usb keyboard with a touchpad that is usually detected right away by even my oldest computer. i feel like i wouldnt use it because I'd rather have a board with something more useful in place of a PS2 port.
            I use my PS2 port to power a serial GPS receiver. I have used USB GPS receivers before with varying success when using hibernate. I switched to a serial receiver and it never ever fails.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by moetpoppin View Post
              is there any reason for a ps2 port anymore? i have a full function usb keyboard with a touchpad that is usually detected right away by even my oldest computer. i feel like i wouldnt use it because I'd rather have a board with something more useful in place of a PS2 port.
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              PS2 really isnt needed anymore. All MoBos pretty much have legacy USB support. I personally dumped 2 different MoBos for a Zotac. Those are awesome boards, feature rich and I hear the BIOS is farely fast. (I cant comment because mine isnt setup yet.) Anything with ION graphics is a plus. Plus 99.9% of Zotacs also come with built in Wi-Fi.
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              • #8
                I gave a lot of decissions into what mobo I should go for.
                I ended up with the Zotac ION and 4Gb RAM.
                Paired up with the Intel X25-m SSD I have a UNTWEAKED boot time of 24 seconds from a complete power off, until the PC is ready for use.
                (Windows Embedded 7 64-bit with "Application Friendly" install).

                With untweaked I mean that I have not done any changes to BIOS or optimized Windows.

                I have not tested resuming from hibernation.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Crinos View Post
                  I gave a lot of decissions into what mobo I should go for.
                  I ended up with the Zotac ION and 4Gb RAM.
                  Paired up with the Intel X25-m SSD I have a UNTWEAKED boot time of 24 seconds from a complete power off, until the PC is ready for use.
                  (Windows Embedded 7 64-bit with "Application Friendly" install).

                  With untweaked I mean that I have not done any changes to BIOS or optimized Windows.

                  I have not tested resuming from hibernation.
                  Can I pick your brain. Does the Windows embedded have EWF? If yes, does it still work like a normal Win 7 install. i want to use Win 7 but have the ability to use hybrid sleep.

                  OK so thats 2 for Zotac, lol
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                  • #10
                    Windoze Embedded is a whole other animal.
                    There are some write-ups ab out how to use it on mp3car, but there are far better resources if you want to get into an embedded OS.
                    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
                    How about the Wiki?



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fixerofallthing View Post
                      I use my PS2 port to power a serial GPS receiver. I have used USB GPS receivers before with varying success when using hibernate. I switched to a serial receiver and it never ever fails.
                      I guess I should have added that even though I use my PS2 port I am also using a Zotac Ion board. They are the best. So that is 3 for Zotac.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
                        Windoze Embedded is a whole other animal.
                        There are some write-ups ab out how to use it on mp3car, but there are far better resources if you want to get into an embedded OS.
                        HMMMM, Sounds like something thats confusing and will make me even more brain dead trying to figure it out.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
                          Windoze Embedded is a whole other animal.

                          There are some write-ups ab out how to use it on mp3car, but there are far better resources if you want to get into an embedded OS.
                          I admit that mp3car is not the best place to look around for info about embedded 7.
                          But have completely fallen in love with it. Learning new things as I go.
                          Embedded 7 also support FBWF, including EWF.

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                          • #14
                            If you wanting fast boots, read this thread. It'll show a few hardware+software setups that work really well.

                            I can tell you that those with the zotac board and an SSD are the fastest booting hardware. Your disk IO is going to be your bottleneck in booting your OS. The CPU doesn't make as big of a difference.

                            @Crinos: i haven't seen your video of your Win7 embedded setup yet. Are you going to post one for the challenge?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tripzero View Post
                              @Crinos: i haven't seen your video of your Win7 embedded setup yet. Are you going to post one for the challenge?
                              The only video capture device I've got, is the Cycorder app on my iPhone.
                              IE not the best, and I'm not done tweaking.

                              Currently I'm working on stripping the OS to the minimum of what I need. Do not drivers for a heepload of hardware that I don't have, and so on.
                              I'm trying to include the Zotac drivers in a custom build, but I think I do it wrong.. hehe...
                              And I've had loads of stuff to do other than the CarPC project, so it have been sat aside for a little while. (I'm also waiting for some parts to arrive).

                              I will try to post a boottime video when I'm done with stuff

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