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    Hello,
    My 320Gb 2.5" SATA drive started to fail (cross-links, random reboots) after about 2 years of being in the car..
    So I picked up a Patriot Inferno 60Gb SSD (SandForce chip) hoping it would make my system more reliable and faster.
    Well. It didn't get faster it got SLOWER.
    It's an Intel D945GCLF2 Atom based system (1Gb RAM). XP SP3 Pro
    After SSD install:
    The boot time is about 90 sec (was about 60 sec)
    Time to hibernate / unhibernate - 40 sec (was about 20)
    Time to backup the drive (12Gb of used space) - 70 minutes (!) (was 6-7 min)

    I tried the trick with partition realignment - didn't help.
    I realize that XP doesn' support TRIM and D945GCLF2 doesn't support AHCI - maybe that's the problem?

    Anyway - does anyone have a similar setup (Intel Atom motherboard + XP) with an SSD working reasonably fast?
    Am I just wasting my time?

    Thanks!

    --max
    Last edited by maxthebuilder; 03-15-2011, 05:29 PM.

  • #2
    If you can, disable the paging file.

    Also make sure you install the chipset drivers.

    Trim is only an issue over time and AHCI does significantly improve the speed of SSDs, however if the SSD is slower than an HDD on the same port, that suggests something more serious is wrong.
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    • #3
      are you using a newly installed OS, or did you just copy over the old files?
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      • #4
        Restored a backup...

        Originally posted by soundman98 View Post
        are you using a newly installed OS, or did you just copy over the old files?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by maxthebuilder View Post
          Restored a backup...
          There's your problem. When you install a solid state drive, restoring an operating system doesn't work well. You need to re-install Windows.
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          • #6
            I have the newest chipset drivers from Intel.
            Paging file shouldn't slow down the boot, right?

            Originally posted by PaulF View Post
            If you can, disable the paging file.

            Also make sure you install the chipset drivers.

            Trim is only an issue over time and AHCI does significantly improve the speed of SSDs, however if the SSD is slower than an HDD on the same port, that suggests something more serious is wrong.


            ---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:18 PM ----------

            Could be.. Does work for some people, though.
            I tried to avoid the OS reinstall for obvious reasons. But I guess, I have to do it...

            By the way, I did do a fresh Windows 7 install on that SSD. The boot times were still bad (over 1 min). Can this be because the lack of AHCI?
            Once booted it was faster than XP in creating backups (10 times faster) but writing/reading the hibernation file was painfully slow - close to 1 minute.

            Originally posted by kegobeer View Post
            There's your problem. When you install a solid state drive, restoring an operating system doesn't work well. You need to re-install Windows.

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            • #7
              AHCI will definitely impact SSD performance. Did you install the chipset and other drivers from the Intel website, and did you install all of the Windows 7 updates before timing the boot and other drive functions?
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              • #8
                -- Installed from Intel site.
                -- Windows 7 updates didn't affect the SSD performance... (I actually don't want to use W7... want to stay with XP)

                Originally posted by kegobeer View Post
                AHCI will definitely impact SSD performance. Did you install the chipset and other drivers from the Intel website, and did you install all of the Windows 7 updates before timing the boot and other drive functions?

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                • #9
                  I'm running XP on a ocz-vertex 2 SSD and it boots in about 15 seconds Make sure you drive is properly aligned - here's some links

                  http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...-recovery-disk

                  http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...e-working-life.

                  Basic guide - http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...BC-for-OCZ-SSD

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by maxthebuilder View Post
                    I have the newest chipset drivers from Intel.
                    Paging file shouldn't slow down the boot, right?
                    If your OS is on an SSD, you either want no paging file at all or a paging file with a static size to reduce the writes to the SSD.
                    Writing to the SSD is what will reduce it's useful life, so keep it to a minimum.
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                    • #11
                      It is properly aligned.. I double checked.
                      What IS strange that the alignment didn't make any difference. The bottleneck is somewhere else.
                      I am getting 3MB/s read/write speeds. 50 times slower than it should be.
                      Can this be caused by the absence of AHCI?
                      No it can't.. Just found this - http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=3


                      Originally posted by darroj View Post
                      I'm running XP on a ocz-vertex 2 SSD and it boots in about 15 seconds Make sure you drive is properly aligned - here's some links

                      http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...-recovery-disk

                      http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...e-working-life.

                      Basic guide - http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...BC-for-OCZ-SSD


                      ---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:56 PM ----------

                      OK. The only thing to try is to fresh-install XP. Will report back in a couple of hours.. : )
                      Last edited by maxthebuilder; 03-15-2011, 09:01 PM.

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                      • #12
                        and if that doesn't work, maybe it is a defective drive?
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                        • #13
                          OK. Freshly installed XP on a properly aligned partition.
                          First boot after install (with all generic drivers) - 45 sec
                          Installed Intel newest chipset drivers - 55 sec boot
                          Installed all newest drivers - sound, lan, video - 55-60 sec boot.
                          Very slow file operations. Same 5Mb/sec I guess.
                          After reading some forums (incl. here) started to really suspect the mobo.

                          Installed SSD in my desktop with Gigabyte EP35C mobo - works fine! XP boots in about 20 sec! (after bios finishes its stuff).

                          So, d945gclf2 is not SSD friendly.. : (

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                          • #14
                            Well at least you've figured out the drive is ok - sorry the results are so disappointing. I'm using the foxconn D42s motherboard which is by no means a powerhouse, and its pretty cheap from newegg... $55 but currently sold out.

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                            • #15
                              Well, I guess I'll just install this drive as a system drive in my main desktop - last time I reinstalled OS there was more than 2 years ago - got quite slow to boot : )
                              My carpc will stay with a regular HDD.
                              Thanks guys for helping!

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