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    My luck with Intels has never been good so I've pretty much been using AMD's for desktops. Whenever I search here for AMD here, it comes up empty. So my question is anyone using an itx-amd board?

    Are cases really necessary? The way my setup is right now, is I have my motherboard mounted to a board which slides into my enclosure that holds the screen. Then the hard drive is also mounted to a board and lays underneath the seat.

    My setup is in a F150 using a mATX board and an m2 power supply mounted to the enclosure (everything has spacers so they aren't sitting directly on the boards).

    I've had issues with it for the past year. Now I'm looking at starting from scratch except for my enclosure. Looking at a ASUS E35M1-I Fusion AMD E-350 APU (1.6GHz, Dual-Core) AMD Hudson M1 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo and trying to decide if I want to try a case this time. I'm not looking to spend alot since the truck isn't a daily driver anymore.

    Thanks
    2004 F150 STX Heritage:
    Parts:
    ASUS E35M1-I Fusion AMD 1.6GHz DC ~$114
    Patriot 32GB SSD ~$80
    Kingston 4GB ~$25
    1/2" MDF - ~$15
    10" Samsung touch panel - ~270
    M2 Power Supply $85
    GPS Receiver ~ $36
    iGuidance ~100

  • #2
    I actually just purchased one of those boards for a separate project, but I have been quite happy with it and plan on replacing my atom with one soon in the car. One thing to keep in mind, definently use the included CPU fan. I know it says fanless, but the CPU runs near 50C under moderate load without the fan, and that's inside where the ambient is low. I would definitely get a case though. I've run without a case before, and I always had audio and video noise issues, which a case has solved. Also, with a case you can use directed airflow to help cool components.

    That, and a case makes for a much cleaner looking install.
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    • #3
      I use one the fusion boards in my install now. Works awesome so far, but I'm far from optimized. I have 8gbs ram with it, but with 32 bit windows 7. Still cold boots in like 30 seconds, i'm sure it will be faster with the 64 bit windows install. I'm not running a case either, but it is enclosed in a compartment in the trunk. Suv, so it's not a closed trunk, but I don't hear any heatsink or other fans, or hdd either. Overall, I'm very happy with it.
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      • #4
        How tall is the board? Should I be concerned about case heights? Some of the cases look rather short.
        2004 F150 STX Heritage:
        Parts:
        ASUS E35M1-I Fusion AMD 1.6GHz DC ~$114
        Patriot 32GB SSD ~$80
        Kingston 4GB ~$25
        1/2" MDF - ~$15
        10" Samsung touch panel - ~270
        M2 Power Supply $85
        GPS Receiver ~ $36
        iGuidance ~100

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        • #5
          I got the asrock board (the cheapie), it has a cpu fan on it. It's really small though, as if I remember right, I don't think the cpu fan sat higher than the mobo outputs on the back of it.. Or, if it did, it wasn't like a normal, big cpu fan, it was barely above them.
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          • #6
            ^ now you got me thinking..

            i know for sure that the basic intel 945glcl board has a slightly taller heatsink then the rear i/o ports, but otherwise, all the models i can remember are very close to keeping the heatsink no more then 2-5mm above the tallest i/o port--which means they should all fit in a case just fine..
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            • #7
              I looked into the fusion options recently and when I looked at reviews it looked like if you were going to be playing Blurays then the system would be pretty much maxxed and that wouldn't leave much for NAV etc. I don't know how intensive the other programs are but if you're maxxed playing Blurays everything will slow to a halt.

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              • #8
                I looked into the fusion options recently and when I looked at reviews it looked like if you were going to be playing Blurays then the system would be pretty much maxxed and that wouldn't leave much for NAV etc. I don't know how intensive the other programs are but if you're maxxed playing Blurays everything will slow to a halt.
                Most of the reviews like this that I read were for htpc uses. Meaning, they probably are doing lots of encoding/transcoding (to get better than the best pictures), sending through networks, etc... I'm sure in a car, the ability to play the normal/average bd rip or bd off a disc it will be more than capable. I don't use blu-rays though, so I'm not sure how it will work in reality.
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                • #9
                  The one that I am thinking of was just watching a Bluray. If this feature is what you want in your car I would be careful

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                  • #10
                    About the only thing I'll be running is music and gps. Never had a need to watch movies in the truck and if I did it wouldn't be blueray.
                    2004 F150 STX Heritage:
                    Parts:
                    ASUS E35M1-I Fusion AMD 1.6GHz DC ~$114
                    Patriot 32GB SSD ~$80
                    Kingston 4GB ~$25
                    1/2" MDF - ~$15
                    10" Samsung touch panel - ~270
                    M2 Power Supply $85
                    GPS Receiver ~ $36
                    iGuidance ~100

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                    • #11
                      Then I believe you would not have any issues. I plan on running a dual zone setup in my Xtrail and this is why I thought this wouldn't quite fit my needs. With the littlies watching Blurays and me with music/gps (both most likely) it would tax most lower spec machines. Let me know how it works for you.

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                      • #12
                        Will do. Now I'm trying to decide which case to get. Still have to measure the spot I plan on sticking it.
                        2004 F150 STX Heritage:
                        Parts:
                        ASUS E35M1-I Fusion AMD 1.6GHz DC ~$114
                        Patriot 32GB SSD ~$80
                        Kingston 4GB ~$25
                        1/2" MDF - ~$15
                        10" Samsung touch panel - ~270
                        M2 Power Supply $85
                        GPS Receiver ~ $36
                        iGuidance ~100

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                        • #13
                          Yeah definitely let us now how it runs. I am looking to replace my laptop install and need cpu grunt to handle the active audio processing. Not sure if one of these will have the balls to do it or not.
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                          • #14
                            ^ while they are better/faster then the atom, i don't think they are good enough for that..
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                            • #15
                              I have a customer that just bought a couple of these boards (GA-E350N-USB3) for a project. I'm curious to see how it handles a multiscreen setup too. The reviews I've read suggest the graphics are pretty darn good (though not perfect) and the CPU is about as the same as an Atom (limited). So I think it will boil down to specific application scenarios.

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