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    Im about to order one of these tomorrow, but just need some extra info about one of them.

    Here is my first pick
    http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Desktop/8...883&Cate.id=19

    what im wondering about in this one is it says it has an Internal 90W DC-DC converter with an external 90W AC Adapter: -- Input (AC 100~240V) Output (DC 19V, 4.74A)
    OK, so what is taht supposed to do for me? They mention nothing about a power supply etc. I allready have an opus, can i use it with this box?

    IF not then i think ill get this,
    http://idotpc.com/TheStore/Desktop/8...803&Cate.id=19
    which is too much bigger than the first one and has more upgrade options.

    any opinions

    thanks
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  • #2
    Well.. as far as i understand it already comes with a 90W dc-dc psu, so in theory you dont even need your opus. This is actually a pretty cool pc, thanks for the link. It comes out to cost about the same as mini-itx system.. and im more comfortable with Intel Celery than mini-itx systems to be honest.

    Hmm come to think of it, i'd much rather get the 2.5Ghz Celery for extra $100, than go with 1Ghz Nehemiah.
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    • #3
      Have you checked out cappucino pc's? They make a cool slim one which has two pci slots for expansion via a riser card, and can support powerful p4's...

      -Jason

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      • #4
        Those are pretty cool, but a bit too expensive + you still need to get a PSU for it to run on DC, which means extra space and worries.
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        VIA Epia II
        256MB 266DDR Ram
        90GB Wester Digital
        Bluetooth/Deluo GPS
        Lilliput 7" Touchscreen
        ----------------------
        Mazda 6 Carputter > Click Me!

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        • #5
          I'm new to this, how would it be a big problem to run DC? What are the worries?

          -Jason

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          • #6
            It's not a problem, its a necessity. You will have to run a dc power supply to you carputter anyway. All i'm saying is.. if you use the capuccino, you will need another PSU anyway, because its an AC adapter that it comes with.
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            VIA Epia II
            256MB 266DDR Ram
            90GB Wester Digital
            Bluetooth/Deluo GPS
            Lilliput 7" Touchscreen
            ----------------------
            Mazda 6 Carputter > Click Me!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by [iG]
              Well.. as far as i understand it already comes with a 90W dc-dc psu, so in theory you dont even need your opus. This is actually a pretty cool pc, thanks for the link. It comes out to cost about the same as mini-itx system.. and im more comfortable with Intel Celery than mini-itx systems to be honest.

              Hmm come to think of it, i'd much rather get the 2.5Ghz Celery for extra $100, than go with 1Ghz Nehemiah.

              I was kind of thinking that too, but isnt 90W a little too low for a P4 based box. Hell i got PII around here with more watage PSU's. Eitherway i allready have an OPUS PSU and i dont intend on letting it go to waste so im gonna use it. I feel the same way about the mini-itx too, there size is cool but the 2 major things i dont like are the CPU and NO AGP slot. They should make them with un-embeded cpu's and ill trade an agp slot for the pci riser thing. As far as the cappucino pc's go. Ive looked at them but way to pricey for what there giving you. And im willing to bet the performance on them sucks ***.

              Im gonna call the company in the morning and ask them about psu thats in the first link and if it has an agp slot or not. One thing i will never do it buy any computer with onboard video with no option to change it. So we'll see.


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              • #8
                These machines arent exactly built to be powerhouses. The c3 CPU family isnt exactly known for its strong processing capability. They are meant to be integrated as possible for ease of use. There are already enough modular components out there for you to buy, i respect via for developing like the epia family. It certainly has found a certain niche. If you intend on playing ut2003 or something inside your car (no less than 70mph too) perhaps you would be better suited with a p4 system =D.

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                • #9
                  haha. I agree with mugu, what via has done with their mobo's / cpu's is great. The only thing is, if i do have the choice, I think I would still choose a celeron over it, simply because i know i can replace it without too much trouble anywhere, and i know i wont have any hardware/driver problems with it (not saying that Nehemiah does, but you never know what pops up..)

                  Liquid, let me know what you find out about the power supply on those p4's / celerons...
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                  VIA Epia II
                  256MB 266DDR Ram
                  90GB Wester Digital
                  Bluetooth/Deluo GPS
                  Lilliput 7" Touchscreen
                  ----------------------
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                  • #10
                    Just got off the phone with the people from idot.com
                    basicly the pc is made of laptop parts and the powersupply is a DC DC powersupply but its not 12V its 19V and it comes with an ac adapter so you would just plug it in your wall like it was regular electronic device. It does NOT have an adapter for a cig lighter though, so you would have to use and inveter to power it in your car. It also does not have a standard atx power connector on the motherboard so you cant just replace the powersupply. It also dosent have any pci slots or an agp slot. So... its a pretty nice box, would look good on my desk But im not looking for a desktop right now. As a car pc, it still may be a good option for some. I already have an OPUS PSU that i paid 200 bucks for so what ever i get has to be able to use that. And im not too eager to use an inverter either. And they dont just sell the case either. So.. at least for me, it looks like a no go. Cool case though. I might just head over to Home Depot and pick up some stuff and try to build my own case similar to that one.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by liquid_smoke
                      Just got off the phone with the people from idot.com
                      basicly the pc is made of laptop parts and the powersupply is a DC DC powersupply but its not 12V its 19V and it comes with an ac adapter so you would just plug it in your wall like it was regular electronic device. It does NOT have an adapter for a cig lighter though, so you would have to use and inveter to power it in your car. It also does not have a standard atx power connector on the motherboard so you cant just replace the powersupply. It also dosent have any pci slots or an agp slot. So... its a pretty nice box, would look good on my desk But im not looking for a desktop right now. As a car pc, it still may be a good option for some. I already have an OPUS PSU that i paid 200 bucks for so what ever i get has to be able to use that. And im not too eager to use an inverter either. And they dont just sell the case either. So.. at least for me, it looks like a no go. Cool case though. I might just head over to Home Depot and pick up some stuff and try to build my own case similar to that one.

                      19v ? A laptop power supply for the car will fix it right up.
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                      • #12
                        Hmmm. Dammit! I was seriously considering getting a celeron system from them. Looks like back to nehemiah and opus!
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                        VIA Epia II
                        256MB 266DDR Ram
                        90GB Wester Digital
                        Bluetooth/Deluo GPS
                        Lilliput 7" Touchscreen
                        ----------------------
                        Mazda 6 Carputter > Click Me!

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                        • #13
                          hurray! you have seen the light.

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                          • #14
                            the ibox is cooler.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mugu
                              These machines arent exactly built to be powerhouses. The c3 CPU family isnt exactly known for its strong processing capability. They are meant to be integrated as possible for ease of use. There are already enough modular components out there for you to buy, i respect via for developing like the epia family. It certainly has found a certain niche. If you intend on playing ut2003 or something inside your car (no less than 70mph too) perhaps you would be better suited with a p4 system =D.
                              If you need more powerful mini pc's that run good cpu's not just celeron crap then try these ones:

                              http://www.stealthcomputer.com/littlepc.htm
                              or
                              http://www.littlepc.com/

                              They even have Pentium 4 one that can run a 3.2GHz with 800MHz FSB.

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