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  • VIA 800 USB Wi-Fi Help Needed!

    I am having troubles with a 2 Wi-Fi usb cards. They both are from different manufacturers the Belkin F5D6050, and the SMC W2662. I have tried both now, and neither of them work on my Epia800 Running Windows XP Pro. When they hit the welcome screen or the screen where the windows background shows up they both will crash the system and restart it. They will keep doing it until they are unplugged.

    I am pretty sure there isn't a problem with my other XP Pro machine, I think it must be the VIA Epia 800 board. I have used 4 or 5 different drivers and all have had problems.

    Since this is going into my car I can't really unplug it every since time... anyone have any problems? What is a good USB Wi-Fi AP to use? Should I try to roll back my mobo bios version? It came with the latest version.. so I don't know if I can. ViaArena.com hasn't been of any help.
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  • #2
    I have the same Belkin F5d6050 usb wifi adaptor and the Eden 800 MB. I currently use Win2k+Sp4 but I haven't had a chance to install the Wifi device yet.

    I will report back on here once done. At least this way you will know if its just WinXp that is causing the issue.
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    • #3
      Anything new? Or anyone else have something to say?

      What USB Wi-Fi does everyone use with a VIA motherboard? I have been reading that these wifi devices are bad with VIAs.. and the only support I can see is from Linux users.
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      • #4
        you should try a PCI card instead. Netgear MA301 works wonderfully under linux over here (kernel has driver "orinoco_pci")
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        • #5
          if you're using windows XP I don't think there's any reason to use a PCI card, unless you'd like to put something inside of the computer case (why? space maybe, but hurt reception). Sounds like an OS Problem to me AJ (maybe time for a fresh XP install). If you're running linux it's a whole different ball game. I bought the wireless card for my linux laptop SOLELY because I knew it would work without any trouble.
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          • #6
            My M6000 with W2K is perfectly happy with an Adaptec USB Wifi unit. As an extra idea, what PSU are you using (Morex 55W)? I was just wondering if the USB Wifi might be pushing your PSU beyond its power limits, i.e. the straw that breaks the camels back.

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            • #7
              I'm running windows XP pro, not linux. All I can find are ways to get it to work under linux. (They have the same problem). The power supply is like 300 watts plugged into my wall (I have ITPS and PW-60a).. so thats not the problem. It definitely crashes somewhere during the boot. I am going to look through windows services and see what I can find.

              (Why was I stupid enough to buy the same wifi card twice and expect the other to work? Differ manufactuers, close to the same board inside.)
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              • #8
                Right sorry for the delay.

                I have the following setup:

                Desktop PC with a Belkin 54g desktop wifi card.
                CarPC with an Eden Epia 800, v1.09 bios, W2k+Sp4

                I have bought the CarPC into the house and did the following

                1) Installed the Belkin USB wifi software 1st accepting easy install option
                2) I plugged the USB wifi adaptor in and it detected it successfully
                3) Went into the Belkin USB Wifi options and set the operating mode to Ad-hoc (I don't have a wireless AP or router yet), plus the SSID and Channel Number to those of my wireless home network. WEP I left as off as currently (according to netstumbler) I'm the only wifi network in my entire street let alone any inaccessible ones. I'll change it once I'm happy with my setup though
                4) Went into the network setup and set the IP address to a static one in the correct range for my wireless house network. I find that with ad-hoc mode you need static ip addresses or else the wifi cards tend to just say cable disconnected and hence don't try and speak to one another.

                Went to a command line on the CarPC and pinged the ip address of the desktop PC. Success

                And on the desktop machine, I mapped a connection to the C$ on the CarPC and could successfully browse it.

                Rebooted the CarPC with the USB Wifi card attached - Again no problems.

                What I would say is that alot of people have found that earlier Belkin USB wifi drivers caused no-network or BSOD. This was sorted by using the drivers from the belking website. However, the drivers on the CD that came with mine are v2.15 and are actually newer than the ones on the Belkin website that are only v2.14

                HTH

                Edit: Oh and another thing despite belkin only having one product code for the USB wifi device (F5D6050u) it appears that there are two models. The one I have only has a single aerial on the left but others seem to have twin aerials like the Access point has??? It seems that they have got rid of the 2nd aerial on newer ones as I would assume mine is fresh out of the production line what with it having the latest drivers already on the CD
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                • #9
                  the CD that came with mine are v2.15 and are actually newer than the ones on the Belkin website that are only v2.14
                  this tells me belkin is not a serious company
                  lately, they were involved in a scheme that hijacked a random web connection to advertise for their non-free kid "protection" service
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NJay
                    CarPC with an Eden Epia 800, v1.09 bios, W2k+Sp4

                    I think this is the main cause of the problems here. I have XP Pro, and that may be a problem for the Belkin and SMC... but I can't help but wonder if the VIA Mobo may have some cause in for the whole thing. The drivers aren't really XP certified (except for the latest SMC).
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                    • #11
                      Well some ok news to hear.. I will be able to restart from Hibernation without any problems, so just as long as I never shut down the computer fully I should be fine. I will still have to put the thing somewhere accessable incase I need to unplug it though.. grr!
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