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  • Is high power really needed??

    I've seen a lot of people' set-ups that use Celeron and other low powered processors, but is that realy enough.

    I have a 667 Celeron with 512 RAM and a 128MB Radeon 9200SE, but when I play movies, it sometimes lags.

    Are these lower powered system really enough, or should I opt for a faster 2GHz+ P4 to ensure uninterupted entertainment.

    What experiences do you guys have with lower/high powered systems??

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    My EPIA M9000 can deal with divx's and DVDs without a prob......

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    • #3
      you shouldnt be having any problems with that setup at all. I used a celeron 667 with 96mb ram and an onboard video card (with a hardware DVD decoder on board) in my first carputer and it played DVD's like a champ.

      is there anything using up your CPU cycles in the background?
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      • #4
        I guess I should mention that this is just my desktop machine, although I dont think it would matter too much.

        I guess its ok most of the time, but when I try running Winamp 5, and Photoshop or Sound Forge and have Internet Explorer windows open, its lags. I suppose thats normal, and I dont plan to use Photoshop or Sound Forge in my Carputer (except maybe Sound Forge to repair or restore an MP3 file.)

        How does that 1Ghz processor in the EPIA M10000 (i think thats the one) compare to a similar Celeron or P4??
        I've never heard of EPIA before reading through the forums here.

        Thanks for the input guys

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lebult
          I guess I should mention that this is just my desktop machine, although I dont think it would matter too much.

          I guess its ok most of the time, but when I try running Winamp 5, and Photoshop or Sound Forge and have Internet Explorer windows open, its lags. I suppose thats normal, and I dont plan to use Photoshop or Sound Forge in my Carputer (except maybe Sound Forge to repair or restore an MP3 file.)

          How does that 1Ghz processor in the EPIA M10000 (i think thats the one) compare to a similar Celeron or P4??
          I've never heard of EPIA before reading through the forums here.

          Thanks for the input guys
          a 1 ghz c3 will do about roughly the work of a 733 mhz p3. they really arent comparable processors, designed for vastly different things.

          you might want to consider instead of a low strength processor, a mobile athlon XP. low power consumption, and very powerful.

          edit:

          OH.. and for crappy old systems, use instead winamp 2.91. it's nicer on old systems.

          and for the love of god, never use a celeron. i dont understand why anybody would ever buy a celeron..

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          • #6
            low power is fine if you like 3 min boot up times or more you need to decide what is acceptable to you a M10K takes 2 min's with XP Pro optomized for speed a 1.5g athalon takes less than 1 min a P4 2.4g about 40 sec's or less and the more apps you run the longer it will take

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            • #7
              Originally posted by port20
              low power is fine if you like 3 min boot up times
              Lmfao...! I run a P233MMX and it boots to music in about 25 seconds, 20 seconds of which is the motherboard post. 3 minutes I think not...!

              Low power is pefectly fine, my P233 decodes MP3s with about 20% cpu usage, and Ogg Vorbis files with a little more.

              And I don't get to have any power problems or heat problems (I even slowed down my processor fan to quieten the system down).

              My system uses a couple of TI ISRs for the power supply, and is all built into a case the size of a CDROM drive. My system draws around 30W when it's all running (draws 2.5A - my main fuse is 3A).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rob Withey
                Lmfao...! I run a P233MMX and it boots to music in about 25 seconds, 20 seconds of which is the motherboard post. 3 minutes I think not...!

                Low power is pefectly fine, my P233 decodes MP3s with about 20% cpu usage, and Ogg Vorbis files with a little more.

                And I don't get to have any power problems or heat problems (I even slowed down my processor fan to quieten the system down).

                My system uses a couple of TI ISRs for the power supply, and is all built into a case the size of a CDROM drive. My system draws around 30W when it's all running (draws 2.5A - my main fuse is 3A).
                What OS Are u using?!?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lebult
                  I've seen a lot of people' set-ups that use Celeron and other low powered processors, but is that realy enough.
                  hhmmnn... sounds like my setup...
                  I have a 667 Celeron with 512 RAM and a 128MB Radeon 9200SE, but when I play movies, it sometimes lags.

                  Are these lower powered system really enough, or should I opt for a faster 2GHz+ P4 to ensure uninterupted entertainment.
                  i don't know how you play your movies, in my case, watching a good vcd is no different from watching dvd in a small screen so why dvd? and you don't have 5 apps open at the same time do you??
                  What experiences do you guys have with lower/high powered systems??
                  great i should say, but the thing is, i'm a technical person so i know how to fix something when things doesn't seem right. i don't see myself having a 2ghz system, it's kind of an overkill for me, i would worry more on heat dissipation.


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                  • #10
                    For the most part, I can fix most things too, although I'm probably not as technically advanced as most of you guys. I'm fine with computer hardware problems, but software problems leave me in the ditch.

                    I was thinking about heat dissipation too.
                    Maybe building a custom case with heat vents (or even heat sink if I could manage it) and 2 fans, one on each end of the case. One blow in, the other blowing out.

                    What types of things do you guys do for heat dissipation??
                    I'm trying to rake my brain, and figure out the best place to put the carputer.
                    I think the glove box would be too hot, and there may not be enough room under the passenger seat.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RYAD
                      What OS Are u using?!?
                      See sig.
                      Old Systems retired due to new car
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                      • #12
                        The Epia systems have a hardware MPG decoder in the onboard video. This takes a lot of the work off of the processor and allows low(er) powered systems to acceptably play DVDs. My M10000N works just fine for DVDs and XP comes out of hibernation in about 15-10 seconds.

                        I'd recommend a graphics card with an onboard mpg decoder and going with a mobile processor (Athalon M or Pentium M) to get performance with low power & heat.
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                        • #13
                          Only performance issue with my setup is that vizualizations are slow, so I don't use them.

                          I was going to build a P4 micro/FlexATX PC, glad I didn't. Think about Noise, Heat and Power requirements. Raw CPU power generally isn't needed.
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                          • #14
                            I built a fat pig of a Micro ATX P4 2.26 with two power supplies, 3 fans, fast video, etc. so I can game if I want, or burn a CD while watching a movie. There was room to spare, and I can always pull it out to use as a desktop PC. The hardware was familiar, cheap, and available. Whatever works for you I guess.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lebult
                              ...I was thinking about heat dissipation too.
                              Maybe building a custom case with heat vents (or even heat sink if I could manage it) and 2 fans, one on each end of the case. One blow in, the other blowing out.

                              What types of things do you guys do for heat dissipation??
                              I'm trying to rake my brain, and figure out the best place to put the carputer.
                              I think the glove box would be too hot, and there may not be enough room under the passenger seat.
                              i've got one fan blowing straight to the small heatsinks of my separate cased sproggy dc-dc psu, another one sucking the air out of my custom made mobo case, and blowing the air straight to my audio amp. i never had problems with noise maybe because my audio is always open, or my case has a good enclosure. the only problem i have is my amps draws too much heat that i would maybe put another fan blowing straight to its heatsink casing.

                              not two fans with the same size are the same, get 3 wired (connect it to your mobo, yellow is the sensor) high volume air that you can afford.

                              when i used to live in the dessert, i had a small 12v car fan blowing straight to my setup.

                              check what others have done in the "show off your projects" section.

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