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  • Need Long Ide!!!

    I finally got this blasted slimline IDE DVD player working 100%, but now I need a longer IDE ribbon/cable to get the DVD player from my trunk ("boot" as some of you call it) to the front dash. The run is just under 15 feet.

    ANY IDEAS?

    I would prefer not to do some kind of USB -> IDE enclosure or firewire -> IDE enclosure.

    I've heard of people using shielded CAT-5 to run the wires over longer distances.. I would need 5 of those (x 8 wires each = 40 pin)...

    Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    No offence but search more...this time search for IDE to USb 2.0 converter!!Good luck
    MG ZR CARPUTER (UNITED KINGDOM)

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    • #3
      Yeah, but then you have to power it separately.. It's a total PITA, cuz then you have power to the USB converter and power to the DVD drive still..

      Too many wires I think..

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      • #4
        how about making one.....get a couple IDE connectors and this cable ($.49 a foot) and you are good to go
        2005 Ford Focus ST

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        • #5
          Oh man, no way.. I don't think that will work.. 15feet???

          Doesn't it need to be shielded and grounded or something?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sq_geek
            Oh man, no way.. I don't think that will work.. 15feet???

            Doesn't it need to be shielded and grounded or something?
            I didnt think the cat5 would work either though....did the other post ever come to any conclusion as to what the max length of either of them are? I thought I read that the 80 pin was not the greatest, because the wires are so small, but the 40 pin stuff was decent. As far as shielding though, not really sure. I would be very hesitant to run anything but usb or firewire that far myself, but I know what your saying on the running 5v to it as well. I am sure there are usb devices out there that draw all their power from the usb port, but this would be bad as well, over this distance anyway. There has to be a better answer.
            2005 Ford Focus ST

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            • #7
              I would say its VERY unlikely an IDE cable is going to work at 15ft long, reguardless of the shielding. The maximum size according to the spec is 24". There are also signal timing isssues to take into account, not just interference. The one thing you could try though, is (assuming this is possible BIOS), clocking the bus down to ATA33. This isn't going to be a big deal for a CD drive anyways, and would give the bus a better chance at working.

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              • #8
                Do some more searching. I saw a thread on this board of a guy that had an ide cable of about 15, and it worked fine. Even had a picture, he had it going accross his living room.

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                • #9
                  OK, I found the guy Leslie33737 or something..

                  He is using an 80pin IDE cable...

                  What is so special about the 80pin? My Motherboard only accepts 40pin, so what do the other 40 pins hook up to?? How do I wire this?

                  Thanks!
                  Kevin

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                  • #10
                    The thing is, this guy paid like $40 shipped for a long IDE ribbon..

                    I just want to make my own. I can get the 80-pin IDE roll (50') from Fry's or something and make my own..

                    I just don't know how you wire it to a 40-pin connector.. ANY IDEAS???



                    Thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Frys has the crimper and the dies, as well as the ends. At least mine here in Ore-e-gon has them.

                      the 80 pin has 40 grounds to get rid of the noise created by having those wires so close. every other wire I believe is a ground. There are still only 40 pins on the connector for a 80 pin ribbon.
                      2005 Ford Focus ST

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                      • #12
                        You can do it, it will work, you probably won't be able to play DVD's on it though. at 15' IDE cable is way out of the specs, and you'll have problems with crosstalk. You'll probably have to run the drive in PIO mode. Then again, some people here have made long IDE cables work just fine. Long cables seem to be rather hit or miss.

                        Edit:
                        Speedracer, you're dead on. Every other wire on an 80 conductor IDE cable is a ground to prevent crosstalk.
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                        • #13
                          I know every other wire is for ground, but if the end connector (black plastic) has only 40 pins, what do I connect the 40 ground wires to? Is there some bar which goes from end to end and grounds all of them or something?

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                          • #14
                            I cant seem to find the answer to how the 80 pin is constructed, but it is automatic....you just crimp and go, so it must have a buss that gathers all the grounds. there is an interesting tutorial here on how to do the removal and installation without the proper tools.
                            2005 Ford Focus ST

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                            • #15
                              Ha, that was me a couple weeks ago. I did the same thing, only I found out later (the hard way) that the super glue overdries it and it makes it brittle, and even more prone to breaking further.. *sigh*

                              I really just need to find these 80 pin crimps and see how they work, but I'm too damn lazy to go to Fry's and buy some.. :\ I guess I just want to know it's possible before I spend the money (a roll of IDE is not cheap either).

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