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    After finally assembling all the necessary parts for my car-puter, I proceeded to install xp on the harddrive, and I ran into an interesting problem. The bios was able to detect ALL devices that were connected, ie dvd drive, hard drive, pci video card, etc. Now the problem, I set up the boot sequence to go from the CD/DVD to the harddrive, seeing as though I wiped the harddrive clean and wanted to do a clean install. The message I get is : remove disk, press any button to restart

    I was able to read the harddrive in my personal computer and even format it there, but for some odd reason, when I move it to the carputer, it doesn't take. The way I have the IDE components setup, is that the HD is Primary IDE Master and the DVD-rom is Secondary IDE Master. Could this be the reason why, I'm getting such errors? DO I have to set them up on the Primary IDE as Master and Slave respectively?

    I'm a bit baffled, so any help would be appreciated..thanks

    (sorry for the length)
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  • #2
    don't know if this is the reason but mine acted wiered with a 3,5" harddrive (nearly the same problem) but after switching to 2,5" hdd no problem

    You didnt say wich you have
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    • #3
      Some drives have a "single disk" jumper which must be set if there isn't anything else on the same cable.


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      • #4
        Yup, some mobo require the drive jumper to set correctly.
        Can you see the drive in the BIOS setup or during POST?
        If it does, then change the BOOST sequence to HD only and disable the rest.
        if it not, well set the jumper accordingly. I would recommended put both HD and CD/DVD on the same cable.
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        • #5
          Set the HDD to master on primary IDE and set CD/DVD to master on secondary IDE

          This will speed up copying things from cd to hdd.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MatrixPC
            Yup, some mobo require the drive jumper to set correctly.
            Can you see the drive in the BIOS setup or during POST?
            If it does, then change the BOOST sequence to HD only and disable the rest.
            if it not, well set the jumper accordingly. I would recommended put both HD and CD/DVD on the same cable.

            Well he said that the BIOS saw everything so it is most likely not a jumper issue.

            I would also have to disagree with putting them on the same cable. If that is the last resort and it works that way then fine. But if at all possible I would say the need to be on separate IDE cables.

            Reason is if you put them both on the same cable they are both on the same controller. Sometimes this can cause issues if you ever copy items from the CD to the HDD...ie installing software...also having them on different controllers is faster. While it may not be hugely noticeable....its there.

            Now about your HDD...it sounds like the Master Boot Record might still have some info in it. If the HDD is completely blank then you sould be getting something along the lines of "OS not found" I would put that HDD into a system and do a fdisk /mbr on it to make sure it is clean.

            Next you mentioned that you are trying to install XP. I assume this is from CD. Well if you are booting to the CD does that mean you are getting this error in the middle of the XP install? Or is this before it even gets to booting to the CD?

            If it is before I would check that CD. It may be that it is the faulty object and since it doesn't have anything else to boot to it spits out that error.

            Anyways....just my two cents. Please let me know what comes of it.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the input so far guys...just for some clarification. The bios sees everything so I'm pretty sure that the jumpers are set properly. I would like to keep both the dvd rom and the harddrive on separate controllers for the reasons mentioned above. I just got in (luv the mail) my new (used) harddrive and so I will be playing with this a bit later.

              Shayughul,

              I get the error before it starts booting up the XP cd, and I know the CD works fine as I was able to use it yesterday on my personal computer. I'm thinking that maybe the DVD drive maybe faulty or something....hmmmm


              any more input is welcome and greatly appreciated
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              • #8
                I was a comp techician for 6 years and i tell you
                you are not making to much sense

                Please be more specific, the setup i clear,
                but the time of appearance of the error,
                and the exact error is still a mistery...

                Clear this up and i think we could be
                more helpfull then...

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                • #9
                  Hey, first I would like to say this site is great. I have been reading through it for a while, but this is my first post. I am having the same problem, I get through the full installation of XP, but after wards it does not boot. I dont get an error it just doesnt do anything. It loads the bios and thats it. I have an epia-m10000. Its really weird, the hard drive is new, and i dont have problems on my desktop. Any help would be great.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by saintx
                    Hey, first I would like to say this site is great. I have been reading through it for a while, but this is my first post. I am having the same problem, I get through the full installation of XP, but after wards it does not boot. I dont get an error it just doesnt do anything. It loads the bios and thats it. I have an epia-m10000. Its really weird, the hard drive is new, and i dont have problems on my desktop. Any help would be great.
                    There could be a 1000 things wrong (ok perhaps more like 200),
                    please be precise. Where does it halt, what is the last display,
                    what is your setup (HDD, CDROMs etc) and then we can help...

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                    • #11
                      Milika,

                      sorry that I'm not making sense...lemme try and clarify I have the intell i810 chipset with a PIII 866mhz processor. currently Ram is 128 with another module on the way (ram is not the issue), the DVD drive is a NEC while the Hardrive is a MAxtor. The setup is currently hooked up to a standard power supply and standard monitor.

                      The error comes up right after the bios screen, so nothing loads.

                      hope that is clear enough.
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                      • #12
                        It boots bios, checks all the IRQ settings. Pretty much it is getting to boot. I have it set to boot off of the CDROM and then Hard Drive.
                        Primary IDE Master = western digitial 120gb hard drive(jumper set to single hard drive master), slave = empty
                        Secondary IDE Master = CDROM(jumper set to master), slave = empty
                        The bios sees both of them properly.
                        After it says press any key to boot from cd it freezes. I then changed the boot order to boot from hard drive first and then cdrom. It freezes right after checking the IRQ settings.
                        I have Kingsinton pc2100 512mb ram.
                        I ran fdisk to wipe the hard drive clean and then re-installed xp, still no luck.
                        thanks for any help

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by saintx
                          It boots bios, checks all the IRQ settings. Pretty much it is getting to boot. I have it set to boot off of the CDROM and then Hard Drive.
                          Primary IDE Master = western digitial 120gb hard drive(jumper set to single hard drive master), slave = empty
                          Secondary IDE Master = CDROM(jumper set to master), slave = empty
                          The bios sees both of them properly.
                          After it says press any key to boot from cd it freezes. I then changed the boot order to boot from hard drive first and then cdrom. It freezes right after checking the IRQ settings.
                          I have Kingsinton pc2100 512mb ram.
                          I ran fdisk to wipe the hard drive clean and then re-installed xp, still no luck.
                          thanks for any help
                          I read this thread the first time and didn't reply...
                          Now I have something to contribute. Call me 'Little Billy'. (those who've seen 'Posting And You' will understand...)

                          It appears that it's trying to boot from the CD and can't, for whatever reason.
                          Is this a copy of an XP CD or a bona-fide MS one?
                          Is the CD readable in another computer?
                          Better yet can you boot from that same CD in that same drive in another computer (you may or may not have the equipment to test this)?
                          Can you boot to that CD from a different CDROM drive connected the same way?

                          My gut tells me that it's either the CD or the drive itself.

                          Originally posted by milika
                          sorry that I'm not making sense...lemme try and clarify I have the intell i810 chipset with a PIII 866mhz processor. currently Ram is 128 with another module on the way (ram is not the issue), the DVD drive is a NEC while the Hardrive is a MAxtor. The setup is currently hooked up to a standard power supply and standard monitor.

                          The error comes up right after the bios screen, so nothing loads.

                          hope that is clear enough.
                          What size is the Maxtor drive? If it's a newer, larger drive, the BIOS may not recognize it properly even though it's listed in the BIOS setup. A rare problem, but I've seen it. Usually a BIOS update will fix that problem.
                          Have you checked the cables? Do they work with the same drives in another system?
                          Will it boot if there's only one IDE channel used with only the HDD connected?
                          Is the 'standard power supply' beefy enough to power everything you're trying to run?

                          Just tossing out ideas...
                          Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
                          How about the Wiki?



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                          • #14
                            other ideas:

                            Have you tried to change the IDE cables?
                            Have you tried updating the BIOS?
                            Have you tried switching a different CD Drive?
                            Have you tried switching the jumpers in the HD & CD Drive to: Single, Cable Select, Master?

                            Reason I ask?

                            1. Your HD, CD drives, and motherboard is good, and problem can be the ide cable.
                            2. Your HD, CD drives, and cable is good, and problem can be the motherboard. BIOS might not have the ability to boot to CD even there's an option for it.
                            3. Your HD, motherboard, and cable is good, and problem can be the CD drive.
                            4. Your HD, CD drives, motherboard, and cable is good, and problem can be the picky BIOS how the jumpers is set.

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                            • #15
                              Do you have a real XP disk or is it a burned copy?

                              After it asks to boot from CD, does the CD-ROM get any power(light up) or does it freeze before looking at the CD?

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