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    I need some help with an issue here. My computer box is in the trunk of the car but the CD drive is going to be in the dash (where the stereo used to be). Now the problem is, how do I connect the two parts together? I'd need about a 6 foot IDE cable to reach it and the longest I could find was a 4 foot on Ebay. What kind of options do I have? Are Female-Female IDE connectors available to hook up two 3 foot cable together?

    I've heard stuff about data loss over a long distance like that, is this because of the thin wire used in IDE cables? If so, what about chopping the connectors off a cable and soldering 14 gauge wire in it's place? Is the wire inside an IDE cable plain copper wire, or is it some special kind?

    So many questions! I'm really close to getting the system operational, just have to work out a few of these kinks now.

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  • #2
    Well, you'll most likely have to make one. I made a 10 ft. cable out of cat 5 network cable, works great.

    Good luck,
    JrFaust
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    • #3
      cat 5 works, sweet as
      another option is usb?
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      • #4
        This has been covered countless times before. Use the "search" feature to look for "IDE cable".

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        • #5
          Well I searched the archives for stuff about long IDE cables and really came out empty handed. Lots of people have asked the question, but few have gotten a real answer. It all just ends up talking about theories and then just ends. The only one with a real answer was one where it said you have to use USB or really complicated signal booster. Well that doesn't really help much.

          Jr, how'd you make the cable out of Cat5? Isn't an IDE cable 40pin and a networking cable I would guess would be much less than that? Thanks for the help!

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          • #6
            You're correct, there are a lot of threads about long IDE cables that were never responded to, but IIRC there was a long thread devoted to the topic a few months ago.

            Cat5 cables have 8 wires. You have to have 5 cables running together.

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            • #7
              Correct cat 5 has 8 wires (4 pairs twisted) so I took 5 runs at 10 ft. each then I took apart an IDE cable and used the ends. I didn't use any crimping tools nor did I solder the connections I just pushed down each wire in to each connection (you'll see what I mean if you take an IDE end apart). Note this took some time and swearing so set aside 2-3 hours.

              Hope this helps and may the force be with you
              JrFaust
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              • #8
                Ah ha! Did some playing around with the word choices for the search and finally found the right one.

                http://www.mp3car.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001501.html

                Went to Ebay and found a 50 foot roll of Cat5 for $10 so I'm on my way!

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                • #9
                  Just wondering if annyone with extended IDE cables has tried playing DvD ?
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                  • #10
                    gizmonkr: Read the thread linked to directly above your post

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                    • #11
                      A computer store here in houston sells ribbon cable by the foot, can't be that expensive. I could probably make and mail you a cable for $20.
                      www.arbybean.com

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                      • #12
                        Meatballman -

                        I read the thread, I see no one with ribon cable has it working, I was wondering if annyone with shielded / cat 5 go it working.
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                        • #13
                          Just didn't know if you had noticed BooJew's post...looks like he used CAT5 to some extent - (cut the cable and soldered each wire) and still had artifacting. Could be unrelated to cable length though. I'd be interested to see how the ones that are just putting the cable connectors on the CAT5 work out, especially with some good shielding.

                          This stuff looks like it would work great:
                          http://www.mouser.com/products/detai....&source=quick It is twisted and shielded

                          [This message has been edited by Meatballman (edited 03-13-2001).]

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                          • #14
                            If you have the option, use SCSI. It supports distances of up to 15', and the cable is readily available.

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