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  • Cheap and VERSATILE the motherboard..but is it good ??

    Have know somebody, is this the motherboard..............

    Manufactory by pcchips. http://www.pcchips.com
    technical data: M587 lmr
    AT- ATX powerstyle
    Ali Aladdin socket 7
    Motherboard include eg. 3d AGP 32mb, 10/100Mbps LAN, 3d pci sound pro, 4 channel speaker out,
    56K Fax/modem ,DMA 66 ,Hardware monitor, USB.... http://203.161.230.38/m587lmr.html

    So.....is it good ?

  • #2
    I wouldnt buy it on the simple fact that the web site puts this crappy "PC Chips" java scrolly thing next to your mouse pointer. Whats the deal with that?!
    Project - GAME OVER :(

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    • #3
      I was going to use that exact same board. Seems good, has everything for a nice compact install. I now accquired a box, so i dont need it, but i cant see it being bad, maybe the on-board sound could be ordinary. Any one used this board?
      http://www.mp3vl.tk Plans and progress on my install - (Updated 28 June 02)
      Australian mp3car Portal
      mp3car related links Check them out / Add some
      mp3car FAQ - RTFF

      [########==]80% Assembling
      -=Current Progress: Working Sproggy supply, building box.=-

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hornet:
        <STRONG>Any one used this board?</STRONG>
        I Used one a lot like it. Check it out, www.skylab.org/~chugga/mpegbox/
        MPEGBOX - Plexiglass Computer
        www.mpegbox.com

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        • #5
          In general, I have found that PCCHIPS boards have their place. Typicially in office machines, maybe school library's, etc.

          I have now had two PCCHIPS's boards in the car, the first one I physically broke (doh!) and the sencond (BookPC) was sold as it got flakey.. The problem with it was.. No slots to replace stuff. This has slots, and it's cheap.. Why not. I dunno how it would do for playing DVD, but nothing a DVD decoder card couldn't fix.

          One thing to note, with any board that uses shared memory for Video, you are going to see a decrease in system performance. Usually in all the area's people like us care about.. Video. Slower processors with a nice video card will play things like ASF and DiVX (which require gobs of CPU time to decode) than machines with Faster procs and intergrated video.. One note on that statement, if you're throwing a 700 mhz cpu at the problem, it's probably not going to be a big deal.
          I cheat, I own an empeg.
          Meskimen's Law: There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over.
          http://civic.mp3car.com

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          • #6
            As far as I know, Ali Aladdin chipset is full of bugs. They did 5 revisions on it with no success. They lack performance across the board and some of them refuse to work with AGP video cards.
            Via Pro chipsets are much better alternative in terms of performance and compatibility. Of cause, they are not perfect too. I would stay away from Ali Aladdinóitís pure garbage. Thatís why K7 never attained the same performance as Celeron processor from Intel.
            Maestro MP3 player: MIS K7T Pro-2A, AMD 1.2GHz, RAM 640MB, 80G HD; Screen: Datalux 10.4 VGA; Head Unit: Kenwood Z727; RF control ON/OFF/RESET

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Magnum:
              <STRONG>Thatís why K7 never attained the same performance as Celeron processor from Intel.</STRONG>
              Am I the only one that finds this funny?

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              • #8
                No

                K7 = athlon. Athlon's kick celery *** in every way they can be compared (except for maybe price)
                www.arbybean.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Redeyed:
                  <STRONG>Have know somebody, is this the motherboard..............

                  Manufactory by pcchips. http://www.pcchips.com
                  technical data: M587 lmr
                  AT- ATX powerstyle
                  Ali Aladdin socket 7
                  Motherboard include eg. 3d AGP 32mb, 10/100Mbps LAN, 3d pci sound pro, 4 channel speaker out,
                  56K Fax/modem ,DMA 66 ,Hardware monitor, USB.... http://203.161.230.38/m587lmr.html

                  So.....is it good ?
                  </STRONG>
                  I bought this board.
                  The video performance is evil.
                  If you are planning on doing anything video related like DIVX I would say forget about it.
                  There are other boards with integrated video that perform a lot better.
                  I use a gigabyte one now with integrated trident blade 3d.. its still shared video memory but the divx playback performance is way way better.

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                  • #10
                    I apologize for my mistake. I did not pay attention when I typed this nonsense. Sorry!
                    It should be other way around: Thatís why K6-2/k6-3 (NOT K7) never attained the same performance as Celeron processor from Intel.. You got me, Meatballman!
                    Maestro MP3 player: MIS K7T Pro-2A, AMD 1.2GHz, RAM 640MB, 80G HD; Screen: Datalux 10.4 VGA; Head Unit: Kenwood Z727; RF control ON/OFF/RESET

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                    • #11
                      I have this board in my player with no problems. Video performance sucks, but hell, if your just playing MP3s it doesn't matter one bit. One thing though: this motherboard requires a power good signal. If you are going to run an Arise DC-DC converter (or other DC-DC) you will have to rig up a small circuit to provide it.
                      Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                      Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                      "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                      • #12
                        this motherboard requires a power good signal. If you are going to run an Arise DC-DC converter (or other DC-DC) you will have to rig up a small circuit to provide it.
                        I am wondering how can you do it. I have a similar mobo with Arise DC-DC converter. The mobo does have power but could not power on b/c of the power good signal. Please if you could give me a detail instruction and list of parts that I need to build the circuit. Thanks

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                        • #13
                          Don't Use PC Chips Boards If You Want A Stable Machine, They Are Never Anygood For Long Periods Of Time. I Am A Computer Tech At A Big Local Computer Store. We Have The Worst Luck With PC Chips Boards. They Have Bad Driver Support For Newwer OS's Like 2k And ME. Also Forget A Warrenty With Them. Like Someone Said They Are For Dumb Termanals And Schools.

                          -Gary
                          1994 Pontiac Trans Am
                          LT1 350 - Fully Built Motor

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                          • #14
                            I Have To Ask. Why Do You Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word You Type? It Looks Worse And Is Harder To Read That All Lower Case. If You're Going To Be Lazy, Please Be Lazy In A Way That Doesn't Make More Work For Us To Read.
                            Player: Celeron II 633MHz, 256MB RAM, 20GB IBM 9mm 2.5" Laptop HD (180G/2ms), onboard ethernet/sound/video/tvout, 10"11"x3" case, MPBS1 70W DC-DC PS w/auto-shutdown controller, in-dash lighted switches, 7" NTSC TFT widescreen in-dash LCD, touchscreen, rear-window brake light installed Garmin GPS35 GPS, credit card sized IR remote w/IRMan, mini-wireless keyboard/mouse (sits under seat), PowerMate black knob, MP3s and GPS Navigation (Winamp, CoPilot, SA8.0).
                            Car: 1993 Nissan Maxima, Black Emerald

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                            • #15
                              Peace brethren...save the squabbling for the lesser bulletin boards...I'd like to think we are above that sort of behavior here.

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