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    Hey guys, already ordered a MII10000 and having second thoughts about its processing power.

    i want to be able to run GPS on the front in-dash screen and play DVDs for my son on the rear screen via a dual monitor output video card.

    will the VIA have enough horsepower to run both with 512mb ram? i was thinking of ditching it for a Celeron 2.0ghz but will end up costing me quite a bit more ($150) because it's worth more and also a restocking fee on the VIA board. they both will fit into the same mini-itx case.

    i heard the VIA's are SLOW but never saw one myself. would be kinda useless if right in the middle of the movie, i have to make my son watch GPS while i find where the hell i am

    Craig

  • #2
    Should work OK, if the video card has hardware MPG/DVD support and thus offloads much of the DVD playing processing to the video card.
    EPoX mATX SocketA w/onboard Geforce4MX / 512MB PC2700 / AthlonXP 1600
    Lilliput / DVDrom / Opus 150W / WD 3.5" 160GB / SB Audigy NX
    XP home / Road Runner / iGuidance 4.0

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    • #3
      i would just buy a Radeon 7000 or something. would that work?

      Craig

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      • #4
        hi i'm new and been lurking a while..that's another $100 isn't it?.. i just ordered a m1000 to start my project and think it should be enough if 512 266 ddr

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        • #5
          ya, it's about $100 more and 2x the performance.. it will fit in the same case so i kinda wished i bought the Celeron.. for me, if i can't run 2 different things on 2 different monitors, it is kinda useless. anyone tell me the BEST pci video card to use? Radeon 7500, 9200?

          Craig

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          • #6
            Craig W, I have used both Radeon 7500 and Chaintech GeForce FX5200. I like Chaintech better since it works a lot smoother. On Radeon, when I try to load an application, both screen would flash before the application window is loaded. Not on the Chaintech. And it seems like the Chaintech would remember applications window assignment (as to on which monitor an application is supposed to be displayed) perfectly. I guess you wouldn't like it if your son ends up with the GPS screen and you with DVD one.

            I know the issues with Radeon are not caused by driver/software because I keep the it updated.

            One reminder, I use this for my work PC though not carputer. But I thought I'd give you some kind of ideas before you make your selection.
            EPIA Nehemiah M10k, M1-ATX, 20GB 4200 RPM 2.5", 256MB RAM, Win XP Home, Gyration RF Keyboard & Mouse, Zoltrix Nightingale Optical 4.1 PCI Sound Card, Lilliput 619GL-70NP, XM-PCR w/ optical upgrade, Garmin GPS-25LVS, Microsoft MN-710 USB Wireless NIC

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            • #7
              thanks buddy, appreciate that.. i hope someone will jump in and tell me they have the MII10000 with a decent vid card that can run two apps to two monitors at the same time..

              Craig

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              • #8
                Bear in mind the via card needs a PCI card not AGP, so your choices are limited.

                Something like this would be ideal: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...139-144&depa=1
                EPoX mATX SocketA w/onboard Geforce4MX / 512MB PC2700 / AthlonXP 1600
                Lilliput / DVDrom / Opus 150W / WD 3.5" 160GB / SB Audigy NX
                XP home / Road Runner / iGuidance 4.0

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pip
                  Bear in mind the via card needs a PCI card not AGP, so your choices are limited.
                  definately. do you think the Geforce is better than say the Radeon 8500?

                  i really hope i can get the VIA to work as i don't want to waste money on restocking fees and i already have a wireless PC card that will plug right in the VIA motherboard.

                  Craig

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                  • #10
                    i was looking at on of those FX5200 PCI but it recommended a 250w power supply. i wonder if i could get away with the OPUS 150?

                    Craig

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                    • #11
                      Both those cards I mentioned earlier come in PCI versions.

                      Not sure about the power requirements though. Could the recommendation of 250W be put up there due to the considerations of other components?

                      My point is if you use notebook's slimd dvd drive and hard drive than you'd probably be able to shave a lot of power down. Mini-box (http://www.mini-box.com) has a 200W power supply, probably it would be a good candidate. Of course, there are other power supplies. Folks here use Opus.

                      Do a little math for your power requirements first to help make a decision for a power supply.
                      EPIA Nehemiah M10k, M1-ATX, 20GB 4200 RPM 2.5", 256MB RAM, Win XP Home, Gyration RF Keyboard & Mouse, Zoltrix Nightingale Optical 4.1 PCI Sound Card, Lilliput 619GL-70NP, XM-PCR w/ optical upgrade, Garmin GPS-25LVS, Microsoft MN-710 USB Wireless NIC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by edikp
                        Not sure about the power requirements though. Could the recommendation of 250W be put up there due to the considerations of other components?.
                        that is what i was thinking too.

                        Originally posted by edikp
                        My point is if you use notebook's slimd dvd drive and hard drive than you'd probably be able to shave a lot of power down. Mini-box (http://www.mini-box.com) has a 200W power supply, probably it would be a good candidate. Of course, there are other power supplies. Folks here use Opus.
                        i will be using a slim dvd/cdrw and a notebook HD, and probably the Opus 150w. how can you read these forums and not know Opus

                        thanks for your responses, appreciate it.

                        Craig

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                        • #13
                          Well, actually I am aware of Opus' existence. Have never really delved into it though. The price kinda scares me.

                          Btw, you are welcome. Hope the responses have been helpful.
                          EPIA Nehemiah M10k, M1-ATX, 20GB 4200 RPM 2.5", 256MB RAM, Win XP Home, Gyration RF Keyboard & Mouse, Zoltrix Nightingale Optical 4.1 PCI Sound Card, Lilliput 619GL-70NP, XM-PCR w/ optical upgrade, Garmin GPS-25LVS, Microsoft MN-710 USB Wireless NIC

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                          • #14
                            Just replaced my radeon 9600 to the Chaintec FX5200 because of performance problems. I like the performance of the Chaintech alot better.

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                            • #15
                              It's beginning to look a lot like Chaintech....
                              EPIA Nehemiah M10k, M1-ATX, 20GB 4200 RPM 2.5", 256MB RAM, Win XP Home, Gyration RF Keyboard & Mouse, Zoltrix Nightingale Optical 4.1 PCI Sound Card, Lilliput 619GL-70NP, XM-PCR w/ optical upgrade, Garmin GPS-25LVS, Microsoft MN-710 USB Wireless NIC

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