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  • Casetronic C134 & Epia MII

    whats up guys, just wondering if anyone tried to fit a MII into C134.
    Im about to place my order for my parts. I was going to make a case that same size. This would save me alot of time - but on the C134 specs it says it only fits a M series MB. I was planning on getting the MII because of the PMCIA slot[sound card]

    Do you guys think it would fit without the cover??
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  • #2
    I don't think it fits in a C134... maybe if the case were modified. The C138 is listed on Logic supply as compatible. However the C138 is twice as high as the C134.

    This should be useful:
    http://www.logic-supply.com/popup_casematrix.php
    (remove '-' between logic & supply)
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    • #3
      I contacted Mini-ITX about this, the answers a no, unless you want to hack it.

      (1) The MII's card slots are too high to allow the use of a DVD drive.

      (2) If the card readers were removed the back plate is completely different, the C134 apparently having the back plate built into it rather than the large hole for your own.

      The C138 is nice, it's what I'm using at the moment, but as said it is a fair bit bigger.
      2000 Vauxhall Vectra SXi
      EPIA M12000 / 256MB RAM
      PW-120 + ITPS
      Slot Loading CDRW/DVD
      30GB 2.5in HD
      Lilliput 7" VGA + Touchscreen
      GPS Nav
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      • #4
        Ahh that sucks, it can never be easy
        Im wondering If i can just remove the c134 backplate, use no backplate.

        But now I wont have a room for a DVD drive!

        SO its either dont have a DVD drive,but no custom case building
        or
        have a DVD drive, but no card slots and use up another USB slot for a sound card....do they even make a USB soundcard???
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        • #5
          Yeah, it's a bummer as I have a spare din slot just waiting to have one.

          Theres this external box (amongst others):

          http://www.soundblaster.com/products/extigy/
          2000 Vauxhall Vectra SXi
          EPIA M12000 / 256MB RAM
          PW-120 + ITPS
          Slot Loading CDRW/DVD
          30GB 2.5in HD
          Lilliput 7" VGA + Touchscreen
          GPS Nav
          Installation progress {+++++++} (Installed! :) )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by camsgs3
            whats up guys, just wondering if anyone tried to fit a MII into C134.
            Im about to place my order for my parts. I was going to make a case that same size. This would save me alot of time - but on the C134 specs it says it only fits a M series MB. I was planning on getting the MII because of the PMCIA slot[sound card]

            Do you guys think it would fit without the cover??
            Order your parts

            I did this mod about 6 months ago and it works great. I'll post the pics up here tomorrow when I get home. There was no room for the HD unless you don't need a CD drive, so I used a CFII drive mounted in the front under a DVD drive. My requirement was a PCMCIA slot for my 1XRTT modem. I also went with a 120W snap in power supply and put the ITPS in place of the PW-60 that came with the case. Everything fits in the Stang’s factory 1-din head unit slot.

            NOS

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NOS TANG
              Order your parts

              I did this mod about 6 months ago and it works great. I'll post the pics up here tomorrow when I get home. There was no room for the HD unless you don't need a CD drive, so I used a CFII drive mounted in the front under a DVD drive. My requirement was a PCMCIA slot for my 1XRTT modem. I also went with a 120W snap in power supply and put the ITPS in place of the PW-60 that came with the case. Everything fits in the Stang’s factory 1-din head unit slot.

              NOS
              YES...please post some pics
              SO your not using a HD? I need a HD. As for the DVD, can it fit going sideways like from side to side, not from front to back, i dont mind dremmeling a DVD slot on the side of the case. How come you didnt use the Mortex 60w that came with the case?

              Ohh yea what about the back of the case, any problems with the port cover
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              • #8
                Originally posted by camsgs3
                YES...please post some pics
                SO your not using a HD? I need a HD. As for the DVD, can it fit going sideways like from side to side, not from front to back, i dont mind dremmeling a DVD slot on the side of the case. How come you didnt use the Mortex 60w that came with the case?

                Ohh yea what about the back of the case, any problems with the port cover
                I'm using a 4 Gig CF II microdrive in place of the standard hard drive. I made it removable from the front of the case. There is plenty of room for a slim CDROM/DVD drive to fit in the stock position with the MII card bus board. Problem was the MII card bus board sits directly where 2.5 HD would be mounted in the C134 case. So I opted to go with the CF II drive for the OS and a USB drive for music and storage. This way I can also change OS from XP to Linux by just swapping out the CFII cards turning on the key. The MII will boot from USB also if you want to go that way.

                I ditched the PW-60 power supply to make room for the CFII adapter and the ITPS unit to fit in the case. There might be room to put a 2.5" HD in place of the PW-60 also, I will check that for ya. I think the front USB / audio ports conflicted with that design if I recall. Plus that 120W snap in board fits perfect with the card bus, and is just too clean of an install to pass up.

                Back of the case.... Hacked it out with a jigsaw and dremel. Made a nice new port cover out of thin plastic to hide the hack job. Looks good from the outside. I have designed a case in AutoCAD that fits all the mini itx boards using a 1-din design, currently just looking for a manufacture to stamp them out for me.

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                • #9
                  One thing 'bout the CaseTronics, they're 10" deep.. so double check your dash for clearence (plus adapters --USB, etc).
                  •Micke

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by grepzen
                    One thing 'bout the CaseTronics, they're 10" deep.. so double check your dash for clearence (plus adapters --USB, etc).
                    Very good point

                    And if you shorten the case to 8" or less, the CDROM drive will hit the card bus board on a MII. Might work ok with the non-card bus boards.

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                    • #11
                      I've also looked at that for my MII

                      The depth has me concered as well.
                      I got the MII cuz of the card slots, but you can't boot from them, that sucks !!
                      I figure that a laptop drive can be fabed anywhere in the case.
                      In my current case I have the laptop drive held in with zip ties that are hot glued to the roof of the case..

                      I also have 2 types of dvd drives ( 1- int 1- ext usb2 ) both slotload slimline.
                      so I would probably end up using the external drive in that situation.
                      This way, I could also mount the lilliput to the face of the case and have a dashmount system. or, have the retractable TS 1-din + Comp Case 1-din fitting into a 2-din area.

                      I too would like to see pics of that install, when you get a chance please..

                      Don

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                      • #12
                        Here is 3 pics from when I first laid it out, now it has a slot drive installed and I am putting an IR port in the front tonight.

                        Used the PW-120 power supply to replace the Morex PW-60, it fits perfect with the card bus board. This made room up front for other cool stuff. Notice the ITPS under the CF II / IDE converter; I also ducted the case fan to cool the ITPS. If I bypass the power regulator on the ITPS I think I can remove that heat sink and shouldn’t need the case fan either. So far no overheating problems….

                        I have all the step by step pictures but haven’t uploaded them to a server yet. I'll post the link soon as I do.

                        NOS
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by grepzen
                          One thing 'bout the CaseTronics, they're 10" deep.. so double check your dash for clearence (plus adapters --USB, etc).
                          yep that is true, but in my Situation the case will have to be mounted long ways-so it would be 10" across for me, i have to try and mont the slim dvd drive sideways

                          thanks for the pics, looking foward to the step by step ones
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                          • #14
                            what all do i need to get this thing to work?

                            http://www.caseoutlet.com/shopexd.asp?id=187


                            2.5 hdd? special cabling?
                            proccessor?
                            slim line dvd/cd player?
                            any other neccessary items?

                            would it be possible to fit an itps in there with all that stuff?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by trdcpu
                              what all do i need to get this thing to work?

                              http://www.caseoutlet.com/shopexd.asp?id=187


                              2.5 hdd? special cabling?
                              proccessor?
                              slim line dvd/cd player?
                              any other neccessary items?

                              would it be possible to fit an itps in there with all that stuff?
                              Just select which mobo you want (m10000 or m6000) as it comes with a processor built in. Select which hard drive, media drive and memory and your good to go. And yes, it all will fit in the C-134 case. I don't have this case so I can't comment on whether an ITPS will fit or not. I'd recommend getting a Carnetix CNX-P1260 startup shutdown contoller over an ITPS.
                              Then you will need to get a monitor and all the necessary power and audio cables and you will be good to go. Hope this helps.

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