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  • Pentuim M on DFI Vs. Epia Worth it?

    I have a conundrum. I have been delaying the install of my carputer waiting to save up for the right parts since august now. I finally purchased an Opus 150, Seagate HD, Panasonic slot load DVD/CDRW and Kingston 512 DDR. I already have my GPS, OBD and my albrite/controller/inverter, (which is a long story and for another thread, but going on the assumption that everything works out with the screen, I am almost there.)

    I still have to buy a motherboard. For months I was under the assumption that I was going to buy an M or MII epia, but kept holding off from purchasing it. I wanted to, but kept holding myself back. While I am sure that the epia is the smart choice for power consumption, size, low heat output, price and port availability. I also know from what I have read here that they are not the fastest boards either. I am not a gamer so I just assumed it would be enough for my needs in the car, and chalked it up to the sacrifice for the low power consumption.

    Then a couple of weeks ago came this

    And this was already around but the only board available was a super expensive ITX option that was way out of my league.

    But combined with one of the two new mATX boards it is under $500 dollars

    Hmmmm.

    So my question is who thinks it is worth it? There is a good 250-300 dollar difference between the epia and the Pentium M setup.

    The Pentium M 2.0 only consumes 28 watts at full load, I am sure the 1.6 will be slightly less, I cannot find info on how much power the DFI consumes only that it is listed on there site as “low power”. Form what I have been reading DFI makes a good board and a overclockers dream. I few reviews have overclocked the 2.0 M to 2.8

    I am especially curious to here from Epia owners in a “if I could go back and do it again light”. Knowing what you know now having had the epia what’s you take? If I decide to go with the Pentium setup it is going to delay my install yet again.

    Sorry this is so long.

    Thoughts
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  • #2
    Why not AMD Athlon Mobile?
    My combination cost about 190 (CPU 100, Asus mobo 75, + Tax S/H)
    2004 Matrix XR A7N8X-VM/400 AMD XP-M 2500+, DS-ATX
    89 Supra Turbo P3 [email protected]/Abit BE6 II, Alpine M-BUS Car2PC.
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    • #3
      MatrixPC, I was thinking about switching from my EPIA 800 to an athlon mobile setup. What model motherboard are you using?
      EPIA 800, DWW-7VGA LCD w/Touchscreen, 256mb ram, dvd rom, ati radeon 7000 video card, 80 gb 3.5" hard drive.

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      • #4
        I have the same setup as MatrixPC, Asus A7N8X-VM motherboard with a Mobile Athlon 2400. For me it cost less than MatrixPC, I was able to find the board for about $40.
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        Asus A7N8X-VM - AMD Mobile Athlon 2400
        512 Ram - 60GB HD - Opus 150w
        Lilliput 7" - Rikaline 6010
        [00000000000001100010-] 98% Completed

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bjm2020
          MatrixPC, I was thinking about switching from my EPIA 800 to an athlon mobile setup. What model motherboard are you using?
          Read below !
          2004 Matrix XR A7N8X-VM/400 AMD XP-M 2500+, DS-ATX
          89 Supra Turbo P3 [email protected]/Abit BE6 II, Alpine M-BUS Car2PC.
          Y2K Accord Dell GX150
          RoadRunner is the best FE PERIOD
          EmoRebellion is a SCAMMER

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          • #6
            I will look into the athlon idea... anyone running it with a opus?
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            • #7
              You can you a 35watt Mobile AMD 2500+ at 1800+ (1.1volts) and it will use 25 watts of power. Plus these chips are MUCH MUCH cheaper than the Intels.

              My main right is a highly overclocked (watercooled) Mobile AthlonXP 2500+ running at 2.85GHz (~3800+) (as fast as a 3.88GHz Pentium4) 2.2volts. When I underclock it alot, I am able to run it at 0.8volts at 900MHz, and it uses about 16 watts.

              Here's a link to a 2400+ Mobile (35watt). http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-439&depa=0
              Underclocking it would be a very effective (and cheaper) solution.

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              • #8
                athlon Mobile suggestion seconded. Excellent processors and very robust. They come multiplier unlocked so you can give yourself a wide range of performance options. My desktop is running at 2.4ghz, but i've also run it all the way down to under 1ghz. In fact, if you use speedfan on a supported motherboard, it'll change your clockspeed on the fly, kinda like speedstepping for your car computer or desktop.

                Best of all, they work on a lot of existing socket platforms.

                Just make sure you get a mobo that supports undervolting; this'll help you run a lot cooler.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Quattro-A4
                  I have the same setup as MatrixPC, Asus A7N8X-VM motherboard with a Mobile Athlon 2400. For me it cost less than MatrixPC, I was able to find the board for about $40.
                  Where did you get the mobo from?
                  My Celica Carputer Install

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EBJUSTIN
                    Where did you get the mobo from?
                    www.dumpinggoods.com
                    Installed
                    Asus A7N8X-VM - AMD Mobile Athlon 2400
                    512 Ram - 60GB HD - Opus 150w
                    Lilliput 7" - Rikaline 6010
                    [00000000000001100010-] 98% Completed

                    Check Out My Install!!!

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for all the reponses, will spend some time looking into the athlon mobile when i get home, girlfriend dragged me out shopping so I stopped in the apple store to read and post

                      But that does sound like a much more cost effective solution. I think the M is a great processor but if I can go AMD and it is comprible on power consuption and can be done with the opus I will go that route.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by alti
                        Thanks for all the reponses, will spend some time looking into the athlon mobile when i get home, girlfriend dragged me out shopping so I stopped in the apple store to read and post

                        But that does sound like a much more cost effective solution. I think the M is a great processor but if I can go AMD and it is comprible on power consuption and can be done with the opus I will go that route.
                        Yeah, I suggest Abit NF7-M (has onboard video; or ofcource the NF7-S if you plan to use a graphics card) with AthlonXP 2400+ 35w mobile. That shoud run fine with the opus.

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                        • #13
                          how fast do these kind of setups boot? i'm looking for a new motherboard/CPU to run on my opus 150 and i'm looking for something that boots super fast, shortest BIOS/POST time and of course fast windows boot/hibernate times
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nico3k
                            Yeah, I suggest Abit NF7-M (has onboard video; or ofcource the NF7-S if you plan to use a graphics card) with AthlonXP 2400+ 35w mobile. That shoud run fine with the opus.
                            ATX form factor is too big for me, I intend on installing in my glove box. What do you think of of the VA-10?

                            Planning on useing the onboard video unless it causes problems, but I think with 512 RAM I should be ok. I dont think the voltages are ajustible on this board though, check my math on the power consumption though i think i should be fine

                            processor - 35 watts
                            seagate 7200 rpm <= 30 watts
                            dvd/CDRW <= 30 watts
                            figure on 4 or 5 USB @ 5 a piece - 25 watts
                            DDR RAM - 10 watts

                            I am up to 130 watts not counting the mobo and onboard video and audio.

                            Anyone know what the power comsuption usually is on mATX boards useing onboard video and sound?

                            thanks
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