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    I know very little about Linux. But from what I have heard/read, it can boot VERY fast, andnit's highly customizable, but I can also infer is complicated and very expert users. true?? I thought maybe about doing a Linux system for my MP3car that would allow u to use winamp, GPS software, DVD capabilities. But How would I go about doing this etc.???

  • #2
    This really belongs on the software board, but...

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I know very little about Linux.</font>
    Check out The Linux Documentation Project for guides and how-tos on just about everything.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">it can boot VERY fast</font>
    True. My main computer, after BIOS tests, takes less than 10 seconds, which includes loading networking, sound and usb drivers, etc.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">andnit's highly customizable</font>
    It is as customizable as you want it to be, if you know what you are doing.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I can also infer is complicated and very expert users</font>
    It's not hard to use, but it can be hard to customize if you don't know what you're doing. It's no harder than Windows, though - there's just more you can customize.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I thought maybe about doing a Linux system for my MP3car</font>
    I'm also looking into it, and will probably do it if it will run my GPS software.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">winamp</font>
    Not Winamp, but there are many free alternatives for Linux.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">GPS software</font>
    This is the one area that I'm not sure about. While there is some basic GPS capability in Linux, you can't get spoken step-by-step directions and such. I'm looking into running Windows GPS software using Wine, which will run a lot of Windows software.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">DVD capabilities</font>
    Linux can do this. See the DVD how-to on Linuxdoc.org.

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">But How would I go about doing this etc.???</font>
    Read some of the guides and how-tos from Linuxdoc.org

    [This message has been edited by Chris Snyder (edited 02-03-2001).]

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    • #3
      HOw much would it cost for somone to build me a linux system with DVD software, A MP3 player, MS streets and Trips (using the Wine prog), with like a simple 4 button menu ?? IS there sopmone who would do it or does it for a living?

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      • #4
        I am willing but it won't be on a linux platform cuz i really don't think linux is cutt out for multimedia stuff....not to start an OS war, but i think Windows is the way to go. For all the stuff you just mentioned, go take a look at my setup. And yes i can build you one if u really want.

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        • #5
          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I am willing but it won't be on a linux platform cuz i really don't think linux is cutt out for multimedia stuff....not to start an OS war, but i think Windows is the way to go.</font>
          Have you ever actually tried to use Linux for multimedia? I'm playing MP3's on mine right now, and DVD works quite well also.

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          • #6
            I almost HATE to throw gasoline on a fire, but IMHO Linux is easily on-par with or better for multimedia than Windows. I play sound files, I play CD's... hell I even run 3D accelerated games under it... works like a champ! And actually, the fact that you can pare Linux down to what you NEED means you can run on lower-end hardware... or get much better performance out of higher end stuff. So, using that logic, Linux is BETTER for multimedia than Windows.

            Besides, it doesn't crash as often

            In answer to the thread itself... GPS is still a little "out there" for Linux because no-one's really written the software yet... but I predict it's only a matter of time now. With some programming expertise you can WRITE a GPS decoding program... pulling your current coordinates from an antenna is easy

            As for the rest you want to do... Linux will do it just great. And my boot time is actually down to 8 seconds when my harddrive doesn't bind up... <sigh> guess it's time to replace that old beleagured 5 gigger

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            • #7
              k i got to have my comment here cause i love to put my 2 cents in.

              first off i have nothing against linux but windows is good to and its easier to use and works just as good as linux.

              windows doenst lock up or blue screen mabey win98 or 95 but hey windows xp is in beta 2 almost and winme and win2k are pretty stable.

              for boot ime ive managed to hibernate windows xp up in like 9 seconds and full boot in less than 20 so i dont see a advantage to linux there and i can play mp3s,gps,dvd plus i get 4 day uptimes and the only reason i reboot is because i install new software. So to anyone making it windows is easyer as for shuting it down u get a shutdown card wow 25 dollars thats wont breatk anyone.


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              • #8
                Whoa! So ur saying that u can get ur windows to come from hibernate in 9 sec. Thats awesome,I must do it. What is Windows XP though? I do have a retail version of ME. More info sil' vous plait!

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                • #9
                  XP is just whistler.. thats the 'official' name now.
                  MP3 Cavalier - http://www.mp3cavalier.com
                  MP3 Grand Prix - http://www.mp3gp.com

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                  • #10
                    The Linux Expo was held in San Fransisco this week. There are alot of new emulators that will run Windows directly from Linux. This way, you could run your GPS and DVD off windows and boot the kernel and mp3 software very quickly

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                    • #11
                      For emulating Windows under Linux, WINE isn't all that great, and lots of apps won't even run with it. There is a great emulator called Win4Lin ( http://www.netraverse.com ). I haven't actually used it, but a friend of mine said he installed Win2000 server on it along with MS Office and a bunch of Windows applications. It's basically a virtual machine that loads in a window under X windows. You can reboot or shutdown windows with a click of the mouse.

                      Also, you don't need to partition anything as it uses a large swap file on the Linux partition for all the Windows data.

                      Overall a very cool program.
                      Jason Johnson
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                      • #12
                        yes windows xp is whistler. winme boots up very fast now to thou. boot times are almost the same as windows xp.

                        as for emulation emulation always runs slower than the real thing
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                        • #13
                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">For emulating Windows under Linux, WINE isn't all that great, and lots of apps won't even run with it. There is a great emulator called Win4Lin ( http://www.netraverse.com ). I haven't actually used it, but a friend of mine said he installed Win2000 server on it along with MS Office and a bunch of Windows applications. It's basically a virtual machine that loads in a window under X windows. You can reboot or shutdown windows with a click of the mouse.</font>
                          That sounds similar to vmware, another emulator. The differences between those and Wine, however, is that they actually emulate the whole computer, so Windows thinks that it is running alone, whereas Wine actually runs the Windows programs directly, with Windows not even installed (other than a few libraries). With Win4Lin or VMWare, you need quite a fast processor, since you need to run your Windows processes in addition to your Linux ones. I would try Wine first, and get one of those if you don't have any other option.

                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">first off i have nothing against linux but windows is good to and its easier to use</font>
                          Windows is slightly easier to use, but Linux is not very hard, especially if you install Caldera or another of the consumer distributions. You can also customize Linux a lot more than Windows. For instance, you can not install the graphical interface if you only have a character LCD.

                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">windows doenst lock up or blue screen mabey win98 or 95 but hey windows xp is in beta 2 almost and winme and win2k are pretty stable.</font>
                          I used Win2k for a while, but it trashed my hard drive twice, so I went back to Win98. Windows Me is Microsoft's continued attempt to dumb-down it's OS. For instance, they removed the command-prompt icon, though it's still easy to reach by just typing "command" in the run dialog box. This doesn't make any sense - beginning users are scared of the command prompt and don't mess with it, while advanced users know how to get around it.

                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">for boot ime ive managed to hibernate windows xp up in like 9 seconds and full boot in less than 20 so i dont see a advantage to linux there</font>
                          My linux box currently BOOTS in under 9 seconds. I haven't tried hibernation yet, but I imagine it would be faster.

                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">i can play mp3s,gps,dvd plus i get 4 day uptimes and the only reason i reboot is because i install new software.</font>
                          Linux boxes routinely get uptimes of weeks. Also, you never have to restart to install a new program, unless you're upgrading the kernel (equivalent to installing a service-pack in Windows).

                          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">So to anyone making it windows is easyer as for shuting it down u get a shutdown card wow 25 dollars thats wont breatk anyone.</font>
                          I agree, $25 is nothing (well, almost).

                          Sorry if I'm starting a flame-war, but I'm annoyed by people who claim that Windows is better, but have never used both. I use Windows on my main computer (C&C doesn't work under Wine yet<g>), but dual-boot Linux, and also have it on all of the servers I manage.

                          [This message has been edited by Chris Snyder (edited 02-06-2001).]

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                          • #14
                            <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">as for emulation emulation always runs slower than the real thing</font>
                            Actually, WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. See http://wine.codeweavers.com/fom-meta/cache/325.html
                            for a more detailed explanation. Also, see http://wine.codeweavers.com/fom-meta/cache/69.html
                            for more information on advantages and disadvantages.

                            [This message has been edited by Chris Snyder (edited 02-06-2001).]

                            [This message has been edited by Chris Snyder (edited 02-06-2001).]

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                            • #15
                              To get away from the flame war a bit, here are some resources for you:

                              Car MP3 software:
                              http://cajun.sourceforge.net/

                              DVD under Linux:
                              http://www.linuxvideo.org

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