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    i started setting up my computer yesterday and its just been giving me hell, the bios takes over a minute to load, i set almost everything to disable in the settings and shut of the slave for each ide channel. it seemed to be hanging looking for the ide drives, i stored my hd on the bios so it would't search for it, but it wouldn't let me for the dvd drive, and now after trying a bunch of time my hd isn't even recognized and its asking for a boot disk. could the slow loading be caused by a messed up hd, would that cause the bios loading to hang? please help, this is driving me nuts
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  • #2
    What DVD player are you using? Is it the one from the MP3Car store?

    If so, then make sure that device is using its own IDE channel and is the master. It has a hard time if it's sharing the same IDE channel as the hard drive (at least in my experience).
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    • #3
      It could be caused by a HDD malfunction, but I seriously doubt it.

      How is the DVD drive hooked up. Is it hooked up via the secondary IDE cable, or is it slave on the primary IDE cable. If so, this situation happens if they are both master or slave. Solution, either hook the DVD via the Secondary IDE cale, or insert a jumper to put the DVD drive on slve mode.

      Try running the system with the DVD unplgged, and see if it's still there...I doubt you'll have problems then.
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      • #4
        im thinking that its the hd because i took it out of my roommates old computer that had a bunch of problems. i have the hd on the primary ide channel and set it to master and the dvd drive is the same one from the mp3car store but i got it somewhere else, but its on the second ide channel so i dont think that its the problem, guess ill have to get a new hd and hopefuly that'll solve it. is there any difference in loading times of a ide hd vs. a laptop hd? is one substantially quicker?
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        http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50494

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        • #5
          Slow boot

          Unplug everything except ram and video. Go into the bios and load default settings.

          When you reboot the system it should go though POST and bring up a message like

          "BOOT DISK NOT FOUND, INSERT DISK TO CONTINUE"

          This should take at the most 15 seconds.

          If it takes longer you might want to reflash the bios on your board.

          Otherwise you got funky hardware.
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          • #6
            yea its gotta be the hard drive, i unplugged everything and i didnt do anything to the bios settings cause it went to the "BOOT DISK NOT FOUND, INSERT DISK TO CONTINUE" before i could hit delete, took like 5 seconds. oh well off to circuit city for a new hd.
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            http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50494

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            • #7
              my 10k had a habit of hanging on boot, right around the same point, i have seen at least one other post the same too, and for me, it was only by playing with bios boot options that I got it so it boots each time- since i set the HDD on manual, lba, pio mode4 and auto, and the dvd on auto, large, mode4, auto it boots and reboots without problems or hangs. You may have changed so much that your bios has all sorts of settings you dont need- id clear your cmos and try it again (remove battery for a few mins if you dont knwo how to do that) and set the bios up fresh.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by trance728
                im thinking that its the hd because i took it out of my roommates old computer that had a bunch of problems. i have the hd on the primary ide channel and set it to master and the dvd drive is the same one from the mp3car store but i got it somewhere else, but its on the second ide channel so i dont think that its the problem, guess ill have to get a new hd and hopefuly that'll solve it. is there any difference in loading times of a ide hd vs. a laptop hd? is one substantially quicker?

                A desktop HDD runs at 7200RPM, and a laptop one is a little slower. I don't think the difference is all that noticeable.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mad Ad
                  my 10k had a habit of hanging on boot, right around the same point, i have seen at least one other post the same too, and for me, it was only by playing with bios boot options that I got it so it boots each time- since i set the HDD on manual, lba, pio mode4 and auto, and the dvd on auto, large, mode4, auto it boots and reboots without problems or hangs. You may have changed so much that your bios has all sorts of settings you dont need- id clear your cmos and try it again (remove battery for a few mins if you dont knwo how to do that) and set the bios up fresh.

                  Let me guess, that happened with a WD HDD?
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                  • #10
                    this has got to be the most annoying thing ive ever done, im hitting every single problem there is, sometimes it recognizes the hd sometimes it doesnt. is there something wrong with WD harddrives? with the new harddrive i havent even been able to install windows, someone just kill me now
                    my setup - finally
                    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50494

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                    • #11
                      ok, ive reset the bios numerous times, in the bios setup it shows the harddrive on the primary master, the dvd drive on the secondary master. when i try to load windows it goes through the initial blue screen setup and then instead of rebooting to windows to finish the install it boots back to the initial loading screen. it is an original xp disk, this happens regardless of whether i have the cd drive to boot first or not, the only things connected are the motherboard, ram, psu, dvd drive, harddrive, keyboad, mouse and monitor. with my other harddrive i had gtten all the way through the windows install but then it stopped recognizing that harddrive so i got a new one. does anyone have any idea whats going on here, did i screw something up? im going insane here
                      my setup - finally
                      http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50494

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                      • #12
                        *update* from the newbie forum

                        Originally posted by ODYSSEY
                        Try removing any jumpers from both your harddrive and dvd-drive.
                        i just want to say thank you very much, this was driving me nuts for the past two days. i removed the jumper from the harddrive and the bios no longer hung and everything went completely smooth, it was like a new computer. i don't understand why that would cause that, it was set to master
                        my setup - finally
                        http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50494

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cris
                          Let me guess, that happened with a WD HDD?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by trance728
                            ok, ive reset the bios numerous times, in the bios setup it shows the harddrive on the primary master, the dvd drive on the secondary master. when i try to load windows it goes through the initial blue screen setup and then instead of rebooting to windows to finish the install it boots back to the initial loading screen. it is an original xp disk, this happens regardless of whether i have the cd drive to boot first or not, the only things connected are the motherboard, ram, psu, dvd drive, harddrive, keyboad, mouse and monitor. with my other harddrive i had gtten all the way through the windows install but then it stopped recognizing that harddrive so i got a new one. does anyone have any idea whats going on here, did i screw something up? im going insane here


                            Wait, so it's a WD drive? I found that some WD drives are incopatible with some mobos, but it's not the case with M10000. I have a WD drive on it, and no problems. Trythis, in BIOS, select LBA mode for HDD. This solved the same problems with other mother boards.


                            EDIT: I see you worked it out. Congratulations !!! Glad to hear it!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by trance728
                              *update* from the newbie forum



                              i just want to say thank you very much, this was driving me nuts for the past two days. i removed the jumper from the harddrive and the bios no longer hung and everything went completely smooth, it was like a new computer. i don't understand why that would cause that, it was set to master

                              This is because some (not all, ive found) modern hard drives only want the master/slave pin in place when there are 2 devices on that ide channel. Some, like your hard drive, will freak out if the pin is set, but there isnt another device on the channel.

                              The first time it happened to me, it took me quite a while and a bunch of researching before I figured out what was happening...

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