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    After some problems with touchscreens and various other things I decided to wipe my pc and start a-fresh. Problem is, now my PC won't even install Windows. During the installation procedure the computer just turns off and won't come back on until I switch it off at the mains and then back on. It's like the processor is overheating but it's just sitting in my room (which is a comfortable temp) and I've even taken the case lid off to make sure. Could it be a faulty hard drive causing this?
    VIA M10000
    512Mb RAM
    30Gb 2.5" HDD
    Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
    Silverstone USB DAC
    Consult (ODB)
    CarTFT K500
    Carnetix P1290
    NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tim Lake
    After some problems with touchscreens and various other things I decided to wipe my pc and start a-fresh. Problem is, now my PC won't even install Windows. During the installation procedure the computer just turns off and won't come back on until I switch it off at the mains and then back on. It's like the processor is overheating but it's just sitting in my room (which is a comfortable temp) and I've even taken the case lid off to make sure. Could it be a faulty hard drive causing this?
    If it's shutting down after a certain period of time, it's likely either an overheating issue or a power issue.
    I'd check and/or reseat the HSF on the CPU first thing. If that doesn't correct the problem, then we'd need to look at the power setup.
    In-car PC or desktop? What's the power source? What PSU are you using and what settings are applied (if applicable)?
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    • #3
      Desktop

      This is the thing, it's just in my room because I hadn't finished getting everything ready. It is plugged into the mains and had been working fine for a few weeks (essentially just as a desktop PC). Only now I've tried to re-install am I having issues. I'll try your suggestion of reseating the fan.

      *EDIT* I have checked the HSF and it is firm. I also tried running windows setup a few times and it is always at the smae point (around 58%) that this happens. I tried a different hard drive and a different cd rom and during the setup I have alternated between quick format and long to see if the different stress on the cpu causes the shutdown at a different time but it is always the same point. Do you think the installation CD is corrupt?
      I am going to bed now (it's 12.15am in UK) but I'll try a different version of windows tomorrow, off a different CD.
      In the meantime, any suggestions welcome
      VIA M10000
      512Mb RAM
      30Gb 2.5" HDD
      Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
      Silverstone USB DAC
      Consult (ODB)
      CarTFT K500
      Carnetix P1290
      NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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      • #4
        Does it crap out when copying files?
        If so, try one of these two things:
        1) Delete any/all partitions on the hard drive and setup new partition(s) during the Windows installation. DO NOT USE QUICK FORMAT!!!.
        2) If #1 doesn't correct the problem, you could have a flaky hard drive and/or a flaky Windows CD. I'd try replacing one and/or the other.
        Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
        How about the Wiki?



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        • #5
          Yes it does.
          I have done #1 (deleted all partitions, create a new one and do full format).
          I have also tried a different hard drive. Does this narrow it down to the CD. It's weird cos I used the same one to install windows originally and it was ok.
          Is it possible some BIOS setting is messed up? In any case, I've loaded the fail-safe defaults on the BIOS and am trying to install Win98 SE to see if that works ok.
          VIA M10000
          512Mb RAM
          30Gb 2.5" HDD
          Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
          Silverstone USB DAC
          Consult (ODB)
          CarTFT K500
          Carnetix P1290
          NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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          • #6
            An update (and sly bump):
            I started the Windows 98 SE disk installing this morning before leaving for work. I rang me dad at lunchtime and he said it was still on the setup screen (I think it's at the point where you enter the time zone and stuff) so it wasn't an overheating problem cos it's been on all day. When I get home, I'll finish the installer and then try an upgrade using a different XP cd.
            Is there a tool I can use to check the integrity of the windows cd?
            VIA M10000
            512Mb RAM
            30Gb 2.5" HDD
            Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
            Silverstone USB DAC
            Consult (ODB)
            CarTFT K500
            Carnetix P1290
            NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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            • #7
              flip the cd over, if there's any visible scratches on the back or dust (maybe even a small eyelash) that could be throwing it off.
              Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
              Via EPIA MII
              512MB RAM
              OEM GPS (embedded)
              nLite WinXP pro on
              1GB Extreme III CF card
              Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
              Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net

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              • #8
                I did have a look at the disk and seemed pretty unmarked but I guess something is up with it. Fortunately I still have access to my universities MSN acedemic alliance so I'll download it again and burn a fresh cd.
                VIA M10000
                512Mb RAM
                30Gb 2.5" HDD
                Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
                Silverstone USB DAC
                Consult (ODB)
                CarTFT K500
                Carnetix P1290
                NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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                • #9
                  Well 98 seemed to install but also seemed to crap out just before I got home (according to my sister who was in the room at the time).
                  Is it possible to remove the heat sink from the VIA mobo cos it isn't clipped or screwed, it has two plastic pegs holding it down with springs which are there to keep the pressure on. If i could take it off I have a little arctic silver paste spare that might help if it is a temp issue.
                  VIA M10000
                  512Mb RAM
                  30Gb 2.5" HDD
                  Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
                  Silverstone USB DAC
                  Consult (ODB)
                  CarTFT K500
                  Carnetix P1290
                  NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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                  • #10
                    I defaintly wouldn't go fooling around with that. Its been sealed by the factory leave it that way, you're only open more cans of worms. I don't think its a heat issue, it would crap out after using it for long periods of time instead of right away. You said you custom made an IDE cable? I'd consider changing the cable out to a normal one (unhacked) and see where that gets you.
                    Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
                    Via EPIA MII
                    512MB RAM
                    OEM GPS (embedded)
                    nLite WinXP pro on
                    1GB Extreme III CF card
                    Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
                    Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net

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                    • #11
                      Huh? I never said that, or if I did it was a mistake cos I haven't got any non-standard cables in there
                      VIA M10000
                      512Mb RAM
                      30Gb 2.5" HDD
                      Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
                      Silverstone USB DAC
                      Consult (ODB)
                      CarTFT K500
                      Carnetix P1290
                      NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Didn't read the whole thread, just about to eat, but have you checked the temp in the BIOS?

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                        • #13
                          No your right, my mistake... what page was I on ?
                          Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
                          Via EPIA MII
                          512MB RAM
                          OEM GPS (embedded)
                          nLite WinXP pro on
                          1GB Extreme III CF card
                          Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
                          Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net

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                          • #14
                            doof, I don't have temperature readings in my bios, only voltages and fan speeds. It's a Via M10000 mobo
                            VIA M10000
                            512Mb RAM
                            30Gb 2.5" HDD
                            Bluetooth, 802.11g, GPS
                            Silverstone USB DAC
                            Consult (ODB)
                            CarTFT K500
                            Carnetix P1290
                            NLited XP with Road Runner and MapMonkey

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                            • #15
                              you def. should have temp readings... I have the same board...


                              Your bios uptodate ?
                              Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
                              Via EPIA MII
                              512MB RAM
                              OEM GPS (embedded)
                              nLite WinXP pro on
                              1GB Extreme III CF card
                              Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
                              Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net

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