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    OK. I have heard everyone tell me and so many other people that cold weather is not a problem for our comps. But I have come to the conclusion that it is. Maybe not all of ours, but mine definitely does not like the cold. As soon as it drops below freezing overnight my comp stops working until after a few days of warmer temperatures. I have double and triple checked everything in my setup, and have found nothing wrong with anything, theoretically everything is perfect, the only thing holding me back is the weather.

    I am not sure which part of my comp is being affected though. The power supply works, because the screen lights up, but the comp won't boot. It gives me an error message when it tries to boot up. This makes me think that it might be a motherboard error of some kind. I am using an SE440BX Intel motherboard.

    For all of you guys who have no problem with the cold: What kind of boards are you using.

    Thanks for reading and sorry this got so long.

  • #2
    Im in the same boat. After changing power supplies, inverters, and using a mobile hd rack (hd's have operating temperatures of ~10C+) I've come to the same conclusions, and now I'm asking the same questions.
    -Nick

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    • #3
      What is the error message that it gives you?
      Awol

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      • #4
        Its not giving errors (speaking for myself and probably for crucz), its just not working. the system wont post, the system wont boot, the system is extreemely unstable (ie winamp runs for ~30 seconds before a hard lock).
        -Nick

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        • #5
          cruzc_99 mentions an error. Knowing what that error is can be important. My best guess is that your CMOS batteries don't like the cold. Have you tried using standard AAs, or another battery? The little button batteries are not really designed for extreme temperatures.
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          • #6
            changing to AAs?!

            Hey aaron, you mentioned something about changing the disc batteries to use something like AAs, how woudl you go about doing this?! Im experiencing the same problems that these other two have and have pretty much began taking my computer out of my car until temperatues warm up. Granted this isnt the most enjoyable solution but about all I know to do. My computer runs into the same problem of not posting. I live in NE Arkansas and the temperatures arent as extreme as canadian winters you are talking about. Current lows are around 15 or so but thats just overnight. I do know that if I bring my comp inside and tinker with it for a lilttle while, then take it back out to the car, it will boot up, but only after its warmed up. Wouldnt think though that its the battery because my cmos info is not lost. Thanks for any information you can pass onto us.

            Tommy
            The Grand aMP3 Project
            Car: 96 Pontiac Grand Am
            Current Setup: AMD K62 300MHz, 64MB DIMM RAM, 20GB WD Hard Drive, Basic Video & Sound

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            • #7
              My error message is telling me that there is a problem with my video setup. It is one long beep followed by two short ones. I used to get the same message when I first put the comp together, but I am sad to say I can't remember what I did to fix it then. I remember posting a lot about it, but it seemed to work itself out after playing with it for a while.

              As I think about it now maybe it is my video card that doesn't like the cold. What do you think.

              As for the battery, how would I know if that was the problem?

              Thanks for the replies guys

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              • #8
                Condensation!!

                The battery theory sounds pretty good, but in my experience condensation is a killer. even small amounts of condenstation can cause a change in the timing of the PCI Bus and thus cause a system not to boot.

                I used to work for a military comp specialist manufacturer and most cold weather and (altitude change) issues are normally traced to this.

                If your machine is in the trunk of your car try moving it to the inside of the car where the humidity is slightly lower (higher dew point). if this helps even a little then you have found the problem.

                Another thing which may help is to run a V high resitance silicone (RTV or similar) along the gold finger edges (where pci cards plug in), once you have them seated in thier slots, to keep air out.

                Hope this helps
                <b> Player </b> 500Mhz PIII on "biscuit" M/B 6GB 2.5" HDD Rand McNally GPS on MS Autoroute software:-( Winamp 6.4"TFT with LVDS input

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                • #9
                  PCI/ISA/AGP slots are open on the bottom as well as the top. And atleast in chicago, when it gets cold, it gets dry (i keep shocking the hell out of myself).
                  -Nick

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                  • #10
                    Most CMOS batteries are simply 3V button batteries. Simply connecting two AAs in series and the soldering them onto the button battery holder should do. Remember to get the polarity right.

                    As for the video card and the cold, just try another car.
                    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                    "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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