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  • Rearview switching for a Xenarc?

    I've done a bit of searching, but can't find anything specific to the Xenarc, only to the Lilliuts.

    Does something exist out there already or is it mostly a do-it yourself jobbie?

    Picking up the reverse lights signal is easy.

    Does the Xenarc have a wire that will auto switch to video instead of VGA?
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    I remember reading it somewhere on here that it will automatically detect video signal and switch over and then turn back over to vga when the signal is off. I could be wrong though
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    • #3
      so then putting a relay on the reverse light wire would be all that's needed.

      when the relay flips, it turns the camera on, thus sending a signal to the screen which causes the video input to switch to the input that the camera is on.

      Am I thinking this through correctly?

      Now to figure out which camera to use.

      I haven't seen many people implement this on here, which makes it difficult to find a good camera...lol
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      • #4
        I did this on someones car a year or two ago. IIRC I had the camera turn on via the ACC wire, and was on the whole time the car was on. Then I put the relay control on the video line itself. The distortion was minimal if at all. The relay was fired by the reverse lights like you mentioned.

        I forget the setting, but it's in the menu somewhere. Just turn it on, and when it detects video it will switch by itself. I'm pretty sure that it is set to work on the video 2 input.

        Hope that helps. Sorry I can't be more specific, but it's been a good while since I did it.

        I chose to do it this way instead of the way you're talking about because that meant that I didn't have to wait for the camera to power up, etc... when switching to reverse each time. Plus I split the signal into video one pre-relay, so I could manually view the camera if I so desired w/o having to be in reverse.


        EDIT: Oh, and I just noticed that you've got the Focal Beryllium units. I just want to say that I'm extremely jelous. A number of the cabinets that I use at work have Beryllium Compression Drivers in them, and they sound like a dream. What did they do to get around the fact that Beryllium is toxic if it's aspirated (i.e. you wreck, and it shatters, and gets into the air)?

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        • #5
          The Xenarc has the feature built-in. I tested it once to see if it works and it does. I haven't purchased a camera yet to install but I picked this one after reading reviews in some other threads on here:

          http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...roducts_id=166
          ~Jimmy

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          • #6
            Originally posted by techy101
            I did this on someones car a year or two ago. IIRC I had the camera turn on via the ACC wire, and was on the whole time the car was on. Then I put the relay control on the video line itself. The distortion was minimal if at all. The relay was fired by the reverse lights like you mentioned.
            Sweet! Now to just figure out where to actually MOUNT the camera...lol

            I forget the setting, but it's in the menu somewhere. Just turn it on, and when it detects video it will switch by itself. I'm pretty sure that it is set to work on the video 2 input.
            Now I have something to do while at work tomorrow! Yippee!

            Hope that helps. Sorry I can't be more specific, but it's been a good while since I did it.
            Helped a great deal, thanks!

            I chose to do it this way instead of the way you're talking about because that meant that I didn't have to wait for the camera to power up, etc... when switching to reverse each time. Plus I split the signal into video one pre-relay, so I could manually view the camera if I so desired w/o having to be in reverse.
            This is a valid point and one that just crossed my mind a few minutes before checking my email to see that there were some responses to this thread!


            EDIT: Oh, and I just noticed that you've got the Focal Beryllium units. I just want to say that I'm extremely jelous. A number of the cabinets that I use at work have Beryllium Compression Drivers in them, and they sound like a dream. What did they do to get around the fact that Beryllium is toxic if it's aspirated (i.e. you wreck, and it shatters, and gets into the air)?
            I don't think they have done anything...lol

            Seriously, when I got the tweets, they came with a baggie and a sticker. They have some documentation that tells you that if you scratch the face of the tweeter, immediately remove the tweeter from the car, put the sticker over the face to seal it off, then place in the baggie and ship back to France.

            Scarry stuff!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by JimmyFitz
              The Xenarc has the feature built-in. I tested it once to see if it works and it does. I haven't purchased a camera yet to install but I picked this one after reading reviews in some other threads on here:

              http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...roducts_id=166
              Sweet! Thanks for the link Jimmie.

              You wouldn't happen to remember if it takes a setting like techy101 mentioned in the screen would you?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Red GTi VR6
                I don't think they have done anything...lol

                Seriously, when I got the tweets, they came with a baggie and a sticker. They have some documentation that tells you that if you scratch the face of the tweeter, immediately remove the tweeter from the car, put the sticker over the face to seal it off, then place in the baggie and ship back to France.

                Scarry stuff!
                I'd have a hard time putting one of those in my car I think. We don't worry about it with our cabinets because they're flown at (most of the time) a 15-40 foot trim. So by the time it reached the audience level it'd be so dissapated it wouldn't matter. Although I'm not exactly sure how you'd rip it apart to replace the unit in the shop. *puts on radiation suit*

                I'm interested in how well they implimented them, compared to say a high end soft-dome.

                Sorry for the thread jack.

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                • #9
                  tell ya what, when I talk to Duane or Jesse or Nick next time at Orca, I'll ask them about it.

                  I've been curious myself, just never bothered to ask. Was too grateful to have the chance to run them...lol
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Red GTi VR6
                    Sweet! Thanks for the link Jimmie.

                    You wouldn't happen to remember if it takes a setting like techy101 mentioned in the screen would you?
                    It has been a few months since I did it. You have to have it on the correct input and have a screen setting to recognize it. I think it didn't work when I first set it until I power cycled the screen. After that it worked automatically when the input was detected.
                    ~Jimmy

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                    • #11
                      I was running a reverse cam with my setup and it worked flawlessly. The Xenarc has the auto-switching feature on AV2. Once it detects a signal on AV2, it auto-switches to AV2 and then switches back to vga once the signal is gone.

                      I simply installed my reverse camera in the keyhole of my trunk and powered it off one of the reverse lights (tapped into the wires going into the light). I then ran a video wire to the AV2 input on the Xenarc and that was it.

                      This is the camera that i have....http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Wide-View-...ViewItem...and the picture quality is excellent.

                      I had to manually widen the keyhole opening a tad bit since it was a millimeter shy from fitting, but that just means that it's a tighter fit.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks 3on!

                        Do you have another link to that camera? Is it CCD by chance? Infared?

                        The link you provided isn't coming up for me for some reason...
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                        • #13
                          Check out Gizak's worklog he described everything you needed to do...

                          http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...22&postcount=1
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                          • #14
                            thanks for the link!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Red GTi VR6
                              thanks for the link!
                              no problem
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