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  • Future Technology - Instant Booting

    Well maybe not instant but as this article compares... its like turning on a tv instead of booting a computer.

    The benefits of Magnetic RAM, which looks to be very close to becoming a reality:

    http://www.howstuffworks.com/mram.htm

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  • #2
    With suspend to ram, I get boot times in the region of 2 seconds. If They could produce a non volatile version of this then I would be pretty pleased - saving electricity as well!
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    • #3
      Magnetic RAM?

      Oh Lord, no...


      I thought technology was moving away from magnetic storage because of how unstable it is. Can you imagine if you had to throw out these RAM chips as quickly as you have to throw out floppy disks???

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      • #4
        Is it just me, or does magnetic RAM simply = hard drive.

        Perhaps these IBM engineers should work on suspend to disk instead. Each machine should come with a small partition (based on the RAM size) that the BIOS writes the contents of RAM to on shutdown. This partition would be a proprietary filesystem, and would be automatically resized in the event you changed the amount of RAM....Wait a sec, hasen't this been done before?
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        • #5
          what about solid state memory (i think this is what the call it?) like smart media cards? It's a bit more expensive but the data lasts a long time and it can be really fast.
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          • #6
            Well what about this... it's mentioned at the end of the MRAM article... sounds interesting as well, what are some problems/benefits?

            http://www.howstuffworks.com/holographic-memory.htm
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            • #7
              A harddrive is magnetic storage, but slow, and dram is fast, but unstable. combine them into a nonvolitile fast solution, and that certainly is something. and this is certianly more relatable to a hard drive and not a floppy drive. and flash memory is quite fast, as well as nonvolitile, but it has a limited life span of write/erase cycles.
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              • #8
                They`ve got to be kidding? Using magnetic ram was dropped decades ago (then call magnetic core memory, using ferrite cores to create the magnetic field), because solid-state memory is far more reliable. Who the hell wants to take a step back?

                IBM are clutching at straws with this, just cause they aint that big anymore and they want to be on top again.
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                • #9
                  I get 4-6 second cold boot times right now, I think its only a matter of time until computer speeds approach instant on...

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                  • #10
                    Don't worry guys, everything's going optical in a few years anyway.
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                    • #11
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                      Do any of you guys that use STR have problems with USB and Serial things that you have connected?
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                      • #12
                        Seriously, folks, if 2-5 second boots with Suspend-to-RAM/Software Suspend aren't good enough for you, you deserve to wait 6 years for *ahem* "instant-on" (you actually think it'll be out shipping for your PC in '03/04? ha!).
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JupiterX
                          Seriously, folks, if 2-5 second boots with Suspend-to-RAM/Software Suspend aren't good enough for you, you deserve to wait 6 years for *ahem* "instant-on" (you actually think it'll be out shipping for your PC in '03/04? ha!).
                          Id say more like 60 years. Remember that as the hardware progresses the software gets more bloated. My WinXP machine now doesnt boot any faster than a 486 with Win 3.1 does 10 years ago.
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                          • #14
                            What kind of hardware are you running? Did you install XP over an existing windows platform? From the few xp installs I have done, a clean xp install on a clean hard drive should give you VERY fast boot times even on mid range systems (I did a celry 633 mhz system that booted in under 12-15 seconds) I would say that you have something wrong with your bios or win xp install...
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                            • #15
                              Over 500 machines ranging from AMD 500 with 64mb to Athlon 1800XP`s with 256mb ram (I run network support), always with clean installs, the thought of doing an upgrade using MS installers is enough to give me nightmares, as the results are usually horrific.

                              If you count boot speed as the time it takes to reach a log on screen, id say around 25-30 seconds is normal (ive excluded the time that it takes setting up network connections). As I said, thats not significantly different from a 486dx4 100 running win3.1.
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