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  • Practical usages of Fusion Brain?

    Hi all,

    Second thread in this new board

    I understand how Fusion Brain works and think it is a fantastic piece of hardware/software, and I even considering using it for my home automation project (which has a serious need for a device like this at this price by the way, so if the developers need some extra sales, promote it to the home automation market!).

    But I can't think of about practical usage of it in a car. It is all nice and cool being able to lock the doors and roll up/down the windows with a touchscreen... but it is not actually very useful is it, considering the hardware buttons are like right next to you...

    So any suggestions???

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Well the first thing that comes to mind, for me anyways, is the truck I'm about to buy. The truck is coming with a plow that is controlled from the inside of it buy a four way lever which switched relays that control the hydraulics. That's one of the first things that this board will control once I get the truck, among other things...
    "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
    Work Log --> Old Car (Totaled)
    Work Log v2 --> New Car (Totaled)
    Work Log v3 --> GMC Suburban K2500 (Engine died)
    Work Log v4.5 --> 05 Toyota Tundra DC SR5

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    • #3
      Well yes the buttons will be right next to you, but that is for simple, on/off only action. The simple "press to turn on an off", will actually very a small percent of uses. That will be mostly for the aftermarket accessories that dont already have a button, and you dont want to drill a new hole in your new car.

      However, the addition of analogue input sensors, opens up a whole new world. Suppose your hvac like mine is a simple temperature selection, fan speed, and which vent. Well In the winter, you are friggin cold when you get in, so you crank it to hot and full blast, after a few minutes, then you turn it down because now you are burning. Well, if you have a temp sensor, that turns the fan to various speeds it now becomse like in the lexus rx300 or rather almost all lexus' and it controls the temp automatically.

      Dont have automatic lights like me? I personally drive with my headlights on 100% of the time, even in the middle of the day because that is just how I was raised. Safer, but I wont preach here. Anyways, I notice a lot of people just forget to turn them on even when it is dark outside. Attach a photosensor, and boom, your lights turn on when it is dark.

      For the racers around here, g-forces are important to measure for many reasons. Well hook up an accelerometer, and voila, you get results you can log and look back on any time you want all at your fingertips.

      Also you can use the brain as sort of a "macro". When you roll down your windows, you dont want your AC on, and you probably dont want your fans at such a high speed if on at all. Well the brain can do that all automatically for you.

      It is more of a "James Bond" type item, where everything can become fully automated, and regulated.

      Of course there are many many other reasons out there, but this should give you a bit of an idea of the many possibilities in the car.

      As for home automation, the relays we sell support ac voltage as well. I will be using 1 or more in my home to create a "Star Trek" type interface. That is one of the actual reasons to implement voice control. Walk into a room, and the ultrasonic sensor detects your presense, turns on the lights, and greets you. You ask "Computer, what is the temperature" and it tells you "The outside temperature is 34 degrees Celcius". "Turn on the TV. Computer, dim the lights". That sort of thing.

      Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
      1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
      30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
      15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
      Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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      • #4
        "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
        Work Log --> Old Car (Totaled)
        Work Log v2 --> New Car (Totaled)
        Work Log v3 --> GMC Suburban K2500 (Engine died)
        Work Log v4.5 --> 05 Toyota Tundra DC SR5

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        • #5
          sounds cool, but how the heck does one wire all this? Are people going to start posting howtos?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ironfinger View Post
            sounds cool, but how the heck does one wire all this? Are people going to start posting howtos?
            Like a lot of things it all depends on what you want to do/how complicated you want things to be... I know I document everything I do as well as most other people here. Just stay tuned and you will probably find what you are looking for, as long as you don't grow impatient and do it your self.
            "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
            Work Log --> Old Car (Totaled)
            Work Log v2 --> New Car (Totaled)
            Work Log v3 --> GMC Suburban K2500 (Engine died)
            Work Log v4.5 --> 05 Toyota Tundra DC SR5

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ironfinger View Post
              sounds cool, but how the heck does one wire all this? Are people going to start posting howtos?
              Well we are incouraging people to take pictures of their implementations of the Brain, and hopefully some people will put together a Howto or mini-FAQ collection specific to the Fusion line of products right here. I will also mirror them on our website under Help/FAQ. Of course that works both ways too. Once something goes up there, it will go in here as well.

              I think I will put another subcategory for FAQ's or Installation How-To's. Thoughts on that?

              And for the lucky people who have their product already, we can do a sort of "ThinkGeek" style thing, where we can have a user-photo section. That could bring some interesting results.
              Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
              1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
              30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
              15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
              Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                I think I will put another subcategory for FAQ's or Installation How-To's. Thoughts on that?
                That sounds good, I know Id contribute to it... how about hacks as well for those of us who have already started hacking our

                Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                And for the lucky people who have their product already, we can do a sort of "ThinkGeek" style thing, where we can have a user-photo section. That could bring some interesting results.
                I like that as well... ditto above
                "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
                Work Log --> Old Car (Totaled)
                Work Log v2 --> New Car (Totaled)
                Work Log v3 --> GMC Suburban K2500 (Engine died)
                Work Log v4.5 --> 05 Toyota Tundra DC SR5

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                • #9
                  ^
                  sounds good. I'm sure tons of people are interested in this product but, just like me, have no clue how it actually works... a wiring example, such as window control, or turning on/off amplifiers should help a lot.

                  Thanks

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ironfinger View Post
                    ^
                    sounds good. I'm sure tons of people are interested in this product but, just like me, have no clue how it actually works... a wiring example, such as window control, or turning on/off amplifiers should help a lot.

                    Thanks
                    Well we will get working on this then. Right now I am about 50% done my partner program to the main Fusion Control Centre application that I think people will enjoy. Then I have to document the massive program, and Tim will be working to document all the Hardware. Then we will get to install how-tos. The more photos the better, so to those with the Brain already, get that camera ready!
                    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
                    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
                    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
                    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
                    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Locked and loaded, sir!
                      "Mess with the best, die like the rest."
                      Work Log --> Old Car (Totaled)
                      Work Log v2 --> New Car (Totaled)
                      Work Log v3 --> GMC Suburban K2500 (Engine died)
                      Work Log v4.5 --> 05 Toyota Tundra DC SR5

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ironfinger View Post
                        ^
                        sounds good. I'm sure tons of people are interested in this product but, just like me, have no clue how it actually works... a wiring example, such as window control, or turning on/off amplifiers should help a lot.

                        Thanks
                        I will write up some very through manuals and examples. It just takes time... we're a two man show here, and we both have full time jobs...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                          Well yes the buttons will be right next to you, but that is for simple, on/off only action. The simple "press to turn on an off", will actually very a small percent of uses. That will be mostly for the aftermarket accessories that dont already have a button, and you dont want to drill a new hole in your new car.

                          However, the addition of analogue input sensors, opens up a whole new world. Suppose your hvac like mine is a simple temperature selection, fan speed, and which vent. Well In the winter, you are friggin cold when you get in, so you crank it to hot and full blast, after a few minutes, then you turn it down because now you are burning. Well, if you have a temp sensor, that turns the fan to various speeds it now becomse like in the lexus rx300 or rather almost all lexus' and it controls the temp automatically.

                          Dont have automatic lights like me? I personally drive with my headlights on 100% of the time, even in the middle of the day because that is just how I was raised. Safer, but I wont preach here. Anyways, I notice a lot of people just forget to turn them on even when it is dark outside. Attach a photosensor, and boom, your lights turn on when it is dark.

                          For the racers around here, g-forces are important to measure for many reasons. Well hook up an accelerometer, and voila, you get results you can log and look back on any time you want all at your fingertips.

                          Also you can use the brain as sort of a "macro". When you roll down your windows, you dont want your AC on, and you probably dont want your fans at such a high speed if on at all. Well the brain can do that all automatically for you.

                          It is more of a "James Bond" type item, where everything can become fully automated, and regulated.

                          Of course there are many many other reasons out there, but this should give you a bit of an idea of the many possibilities in the car.

                          As for home automation, the relays we sell support ac voltage as well. I will be using 1 or more in my home to create a "Star Trek" type interface. That is one of the actual reasons to implement voice control. Walk into a room, and the ultrasonic sensor detects your presense, turns on the lights, and greets you. You ask "Computer, what is the temperature" and it tells you "The outside temperature is 34 degrees Celcius". "Turn on the TV. Computer, dim the lights". That sort of thing.

                          Thanks and some nice ideas there!

                          Okay but question 1 - where does one buy all these sensors, and which sensors are suitable?

                          Question 2 - Can I trigger contact closure? Because my home HVAC (well ok just a boiler for central heating) triggers on contact closure.

                          To be honest I am more keen to use this at home than in the car

                          Please please promote this fantastic item to the home automation market... please get in contact with people like Homeseer, xPL, xAP, Domia Harmony, Automatedhome.co.uk etc. People will love it!

                          Thanks.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wywywywy View Post
                            Thanks and some nice ideas there!

                            Okay but question 1 - where does one buy all these sensors, and which sensors are suitable?

                            Question 2 - Can I trigger contact closure? Because my home HVAC (well ok just a boiler for central heating) triggers on contact closure.

                            To be honest I am more keen to use this at home than in the car

                            Please please promote this fantastic item to the home automation market... please get in contact with people like Homeseer, xPL, xAP, Domia Harmony, Automatedhome.co.uk etc. People will love it!

                            Thanks.
                            All of this is purchasable through our website at www.fusioncontrolcentre.com

                            As for contact closure, that is exactly what a relay does, and is the main purpose of the Fusion Brain's output ports because they can drive relays directly. Relays are also available to purchase through our store.

                            Now this contact, is it just a button sort of, or does it carry large amperage power through it? Basically is it like a power button on your computer that just trips the main power, or is the main power being switched through it like the switch on a power strip?
                            Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
                            1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
                            30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
                            15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
                            Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              It carries very very low current (probably 1mA or something) at 12v. But I was trying to avoid using a relay as there is no space I can hide a relay next to the boiler (it is unsightly you know!). But if I have to, I don't think it is a problem.

                              And you know what I never realised your website sells sensors and relays Thanks for the tip...

                              Sorry to be cheeky but is there still any way to get a free thermostat out of you now that pre-order has ended? >__<

                              Thanks.

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