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  • Vista, NVIDIA, Ram, and Brain (Compatability) updated! code 10 in xp

    I hate vista...

    Well, a bunch of my parts are coming in, and I'm getting to the point where I would really benefit from having the outputs working, which would mean I have to get my brain working. And being that so far I have been the only one to have these problems on a persistant basis, I figured it's time to either pull my xp puter out of my truck, put together another xp computer, or finger out what is wrong with my two vista machines. Other than running on Operating System software that should have never made it past beta testing, nothing has been too terribly wrong with my HP's.

    I preferred to start with the last choice. I did a bunch of re-google-search, and found the following sites regarding the issue

    CompatDB.org Forums Windows NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista Hardware USB Device Not Recognized (Malfunction)

    650048-usb-device-not-recognized-device

    Cumulative-update-rollup-components-Windows-Vista

    Windows Vista Community-Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (Code 12) in Hardware & Devices

    USB Device Malfunctioned / Not Recognizedt

    Planet AMD64-USB Hub not working in vista

    ntcompatible-Desperately need help ---> USB Devices Not Recognized!

    Update for Windows Vista (KB941600) -USB Core components

    Update for Windows Vista (KB925528)

    Why doesn't my computer recognize my USB cord when I plug it in?



    Extra RAM causes USB hub to fail
    Stop errors occur on a Windows-based computer that has 2GB or more of RAM and is using an NVIDIA nForce USB controller

    Some of these sites report on similar issues to the ones I'm having, some are xp but there's a substantial amount of vista ones. A lot of people report that all of a sudden, a device malfunctions, and afterwards, all devices malfunction (not happening for me).

    Many of the reporters are using similar HP's running AMD turion64's like me.

    I've tried suggestions like, removing hidden drivers, 'restacking the drivers', etc. but nothing seemed to work. The two microsoft updates on similar issues, when downloaded and installed, pop up a dialog saying they don't apply to my computer.

    And still, no luck. So, as I was just about to go and (finally) put a new PCI usb2.0 card in my PC, I thought, "hmmm, 2 ram chips... Ok, why not..." So I removed one (512M...oh well, worth the try...) But I continued on, thinking,"maybe it is an IRQ problem"... Rebooted (it took FOREVER on 512M) and a new hardware wizard popped up:"Windows needs to install driver software for -NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE" So I let it, and checked out my device manager...

    Other Devices
    -Fusion Brain

    !!!!!!

    I hate vista.

    I have 2Meg Ram in my laptop, and haven't tried it as of yet, but I'm thinking I'll have similar 'success'.
    It's been a while...

  • #2
    Wow, that's just goofy. Stupid Vista.
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    • #3
      So as I continued to try to install the driver, I got that code10 start-error, and things were going pretty darned slow, to say the least. I then turned off the computer, installed my puny ram chip back in, and decided to restart without taking the next step of installing the PCI USB2.0 board. It did install the NVIDIA driver, so...maybe...

      Sure enough, with full ram, and a power up, Da Fusion Brain still exists in my Device Manager, with the driver working properly. I didn't babysit the restart, so I'm not sure if it automatically re-installed the driver, or if it ended up happy with my previous attempt.

      That is my weirdest hardware install to date. Time to try the same process with the laptop.

      But until then, I'm officially a Fusion Brain user now.
      It's been a while...

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      • #4
        Well I did the same procedure with the laptop, but when the computer came back up with one less ram chip, it didn't want to install anything new, like an NVIDIA driver. I didn't give up, I uninstalled all of my USB devices, plugged in the brain, and let them reinstall. The brain was recognized (I'll spoil the ending now and let you know this was short lived). The driver install got to that code10 install error, so I shut it down, installed the ram and restarted. Funny thing though, as the laptop was coming back up, it stayed in a continuous cycle of the fan starting and then shutting down. Only after I removed the brain did it start up fully, I checked bios on the way up, and noticed there were no usb options present; not even the legacy enable option, there was the boot order where a boot off of a USB HD is allowed, but last on the list, and there were no options to disable it, I could only re-order it. I doubt that would have done me any good. I exited without changes. Once again I got stuck in the fan cycling with a black screen. I unplugged the brain again and waited till the windows splash started and plugged back in. And now I'm back to the same ol' Unkown device problem...

        I hate vista.
        It's been a while...

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        • #5
          But it still works on the one computer right? So the Brain isn't faulty we know now... Just that your computer hates it!

          What type of laptop is it? Trying to find out what USB controller it uses...
          Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
          1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
          30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
          15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
          Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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          • #6
            The PC didn't stay working with the brain once I unplugged and replugged the brain. I tried the PCI thing, and it didn't work. Currently I'm in the process of unplugging the ram again (vista's so darned slow on 512M ram) to get it working.

            The laptop is a HP Pavillion dv6000 (DV6436NR)
            It's been a while...

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            • #7
              I'm back to square one, "unknown device" on both computers.

              I was pretty sure neither of my brains were faulty when I started this, especially when you said you test every one before shipping.

              I do all of my tinkering on these vista machines, that's why I was so hesitant to put together a XP machine. But it looks like that's what I need to do. I was just hoping fixing this for my setup would not only work for me and possibly help some future HP/Vista victim.
              It's been a while...

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              • #8
                Well I do all my dev. work now on my Vista laptop. Its a pure intel machine, works flawlessly. T7600, 2Gb RAM, and Intel 82801 USB controller with Intel video chip...

                So I guess Vista just needs better support for drivers. I know last July before Vista went public, I installed it in a computer with dual Nvidia 6800s (top of the line then ) and that was the worst performance I had ever seen. I hope they have improved since, but no more nvidia/vista combo's for me...

                Does your laptop have a PCMCIA slot? If it does, if you go to CompUSA you can pick up a PCMCIA to USB for the laptop, see if it works. If not, they have a 30day money back no questions asked return policy which is pretty nice.

                And I know we have been over this before but you are sure the power is clean and the cable is snug and all right?
                Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
                1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
                30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
                15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
                Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                  Does your laptop have a PCMCIA slot? If it does, if you go to CompUSA you can pick up a PCMCIA to USB for the laptop, see if it works. If not, they have a 30day money back no questions asked return policy which is pretty nice.
                  I'll have to give that a try.
                  EDIT: Doh, I dont have one of those...but I have an "expansion port 3"

                  Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                  And I know we have been over this before but you are sure the power is clean and the cable is snug and all right?
                  The brain installed almost flawlessly for me on my truck's computer, which is now in my office. I also had to put [ClassInstall32] at the very end of the .inf file. The longest part was the download though (aside from gutting the truck).
                  So, yep power supplied is good to go.
                  It's been a while...

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                  • #10
                    so it works fine on your truckputer?


                    are you using it on a motherboard USB port?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by greenman100 View Post
                      so it works fine on your truckputer?


                      are you using it on a motherboard USB port?
                      Yes, and on the ASUS m2n-mx motherboard for my truck computer it's plugged into a motherboard port. Well they both are. One Brain (the one I've been playing with lately) works fine so far. I plugged in the other one; that I had in a box, ready to send back, but I get unknown device in device manager for that one.


                      Working Brain:
                      USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&1A052CC6&0&2

                      Not-working, older Brain:
                      USB\VID_0000&PID_0000\5&1A052CC6&0&3

                      I guess I can't leave a good thing alone.

                      The one that is working now was also plugged into the mobo ports on the HP Vista computer.

                      Is there something different I'm going to have to do for the second one? I used XP's more friendly (with more options) to specify the file location for the non-working brain, I even specified the .inf file a couple times, but XP told me that that driver is not for my hardware.

                      I sure am happy to finally make the lights flash on one of em though.

                      Vista
                      HP
                      NVIDIA
                      Attached Files
                      It's been a while...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by h3rk View Post
                        Working Brain:
                        USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&1A052CC6&0&2

                        Not-working, older Brain:
                        USB\VID_0000&PID_0000\5&1A052CC6&0&3

                        those quadruple zeros don't look good. You might need to send that one back.

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                        • #13
                          To sum things up with my current XP problems, The driver says it's working. I can not get any of the analog signals on either uber edition or FCC 2.2.1 to show a change, by simply hooking up the dial potentiometer to each input connection on the brain and turning it. I opened up the raw debug window, and I dont see of the analog visuals move. I also hooked up some relays to the Digital Outputs, and toggled them both in the software and in the debug window, and I hear no clicking ( and none of the relays show closed electrically, though the software is telling all of the ones it can to). In the Hz section of the debug window it says:

                          Write: 1.45455 (fluctuates)
                          Max: 64.00000
                          Min: 0.00000

                          Read: 0.0000 (never changes)
                          Max:0.0000
                          Min:0.0000

                          This problem was due to a usb cable, it was old and long.
                          It's been a while...

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                          • #14
                            I have some pressing questions all of the way down at the bottom:

                            I really am frustrated. I'm feeling... well lost, and here's why:

                            I've had the above issues for some time, I'm on my second brain, I resorted to doing my hardware testing on my car computer, which runs on xp. I had a few issues at first, but after writing [classinstall 32] at the very bottom of the driver (I tried it just above the strings line to no avail.

                            I had no appearant problems, until I started working with the software.

                            The first thing I did was download .net (3.5)
                            The second thing I did was record the ID and put it in the skin.
                            I tried uber, but nothing happened with the brain when I pushed any of the buttons.
                            I then tried FCC 2.2.1 so I could look at raw data with the console.
                            and:
                            I got the read write thing that I put in the above post.
                            I was getting what 2K1 Toaster identified as file handler problems on every other start up of the fusion software. Removing the rotating streak image helped with this.(from uber tester thread)

                            I tried replacing the USB cable and to my amazement, it worked.

                            Shortly after playing with inputs (sweeping a potentiometer) The software would quietly lose communication with the brain, leaving outputs locked in on the brain, and inputs locked in on the software.


                            No hang ups and buttons caused things to happen irl.
                            Relays clicked and inputs showed up on graphs again.

                            after a few startup of the software, the brain would click(switch states on startup) and then hang up. (2k1Toaster identified this as a possible USB hanging up)

                            I then tried switching usb ports, and once again did battle with "unknown device". I battled this by restacking the USB drivers, and restarting both the PC and reseting the brain, though it didn't always work, and several attempts and different sequencing were needed. Sometimes I had to move the cable from port to port.

                            I got it to work last night for a while, consistantly, but after several minutes it would hang up.

                            But after a few restarts of the software and the entire system, it stopped working all together.

                            I tried removing [classinstall 32], and then moving it to the original recommended location in the file. But anywhere other than at the bottom = "unknown device"

                            I'm having 'better' luck now, it's recognizing the brain more frequently, but now I have a persistant code 10 generic start error.

                            I just noticed this AMD xp machine also runs onboard nvidia graphics.

                            Also possibly related, I have a yellow ? PCI device in hardware manager but no PCI installed.

                            I went through BIOS and USB 2 and 1.1 are enabled. I tried legacy in auto as it was previously enabled.


                            So hopefully I wont have to buy a new PC for my truck, but I've got my finger on the trigger;

                            Intel next time though...definately.

                            Any suggestions on a powerful mini-itx (I a have DSATX) that is known to work with the brain, without a doubt??
                            It's been a while...

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                            • #15
                              I think I broke it:

                              I left it alone to sulk (and watch football for a while).
                              Then came back to it, and it was recognized when I supplied the already USB connected brain with 12V.

                              It didn't communicate (skin is set right) but it's progress.


                              I removed all of the IO connections prior.
                              I turned off the brains power, connected the relays to the DO's and one potentiometer to A1.
                              Then I turned it back on, and all of the DO's lit up. It wouldn't take commands from Uber.
                              Looking at device manager, it went away, or never came back. And it wasn't even shoing up as "unknown device".

                              I swapped usb ports, and cycled power to it, and now I'm back at 'code 10'

                              I guess I have to wait again. This is insanity. I'm gonna go try and get my HD radio working now.
                              It's been a while...

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