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    Hey Guys..

    I was thinking about the following..
    (It doesn't apply to me 'cause i don't have even the player installed yet... but i'm definetly nog going to add internet to my vehicle)

    Here at my work we've got a big access application that users can use.. But only on a NT Terminal server.
    Let me explain you what it does.. It creates some kind of desktop on your own desktop but then displays the server window....

    In this desktop you have all kinds of applications which are installed on the server..

    Now it is possible for people with laptops and cellphones to use the applications on that Terminal Server..

    Now this Terminal Server is connected to the internet by a DSL connection.
    And the server also has a couple of phone-modems..

    Now what people can do is use the internet-explorer on the server and use the DSL connection..

    Since this terminal server program is only putting through the screen that you see in the simulated desktop + mouseco-ordinates + keyboard hits. This can be done one a very low-bandwidth connection (ex. mobile phone connection)

    I was thinking.. when people are at home running their server.. and then call the server by cell-phone.. they would have SUPER-FAST Internet in the car... And songs would be downloaded to the server..
    The nice thing about this is this:

    When the connection from the car-puter to the server is lost (cell phone hung-up)
    The processes on the server keep running, and thus continuing your download....

    Maybe no one can do something with this, but i noticed it a my work.. and it looks very cool on a laptop with a cellphone, and i just have to type the URL.. and the.. with the blink of an eye the whole page is up on the screen..
    I wonder how long this would take if I were connected directly to the internet....

    Just some thoughts I wanted to share with you !


    Raas - The Netherlands
    ME: VIA epia m10000, lilliput 7', opus 150w, 80gb<br>
    GF: IBM Thinkpad 380, ext. 3.5 80gb, 40x4, PB-IR

  • #2
    At my work we were experimenting with something similar -- Citrix Metaframe. It's a great way to display a desktop remotely, but the only problem you are going to have is getting the mp3 audio over the cell connection. Most cell modem connections aren't that fast (9600bps to 19.2kbps) so the audio would have a hard time streaming from the server. Plus if your connection got dropped the music would stop until you reconnected.

    Also, keep in mind that terminal server doesn't send the entire screen, just the parts that change. Also many of the terminal-server like programs are limited in color depth (most are 256 colors) and have a hard time doing bandwidth-intensive things like streaming video and audio.

    I had the idea awhile back to have the carputer be an NT or Win2k server and give the passengers their own portable wireless terminal (Honeywell makes a wireless webpad with integrated LCD, etc.). That way each passenger could be listening to/watching something different. Someone in the front could have headphones on and be listening to mp3s, while 2 people in the back could be watching separate movies stored on the hard disk.

    ...maybe someday when the technology gets better we could do something like that.
    Jason Johnson
    Yorba Linda, California

    MPC Phase IV - *** PENDING ***


    • #3
      I dont think that Raas walk implying streaming audio over a cell phone connection, but more or less, just downloading then to the home computer.
      This set up would be really sweet if u also had a wireless lan installed in the car, and home, so that when u pull into the dirve way, all the songs that you have downloaded onto your server at home, could be transfered to the carputer, automatically when u get home. Plans and progress on my install - (Updated 28 June 02)
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      • #4
        That's Right Hornet..

        Just super fast internet to browse for information and not the streaming-stuff..

        What you said about the wireless-lan would be Ideal !!!


        Here at work we can use the Citrix Metaframe on top of The NT Terminal Server (?!?!?) and it's pretty cool. But It's possible to get 16k colors and still have the resolutions of near 1024x786 over a very very slow network connection.

        Raas - The Netherlands
        ME: VIA epia m10000, lilliput 7', opus 150w, 80gb<br>
        GF: IBM Thinkpad 380, ext. 3.5 80gb, 40x4, PB-IR


        • #5
          I've used Terminal Server to surf the Net over a 14.4K modem. It was painfully slow...
          Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
          Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
          "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."


          • #6
            hehe but 14.4 is painfully slow, period.

   Plans and progress on my install - (Updated 28 June 02)
            Australian mp3car Portal
            mp3car related links Check them out / Add some
            mp3car FAQ - RTFF

            [########==]80% Assembling
            -=Current Progress: Working Sproggy supply, building box.=-


            • #7
              Hi All,

              You best bet would to be using Citrix Metarame v1.8, it has higher compression. I have had it working over 28.8 with resonable response times.

              With citrix you can also publish your apps to a web page so you can access your server anywhere (NFuse). has an example.

              You can also set no session time out on citrix so your downloads keep coming trough when you loose the connection.

              I have citrix NFuse running like a dream at work and connect to it from sites with low bandwidth and works great.

              You can optimise citrix to run over a connection as little as 14.4k (
              The only problem is $$$

              Hope this helps.


              • #8
                Maybe I'm off the topic, but ricochet sell a usb or pcmcia wireless modem at 128kb access at traveling speeds upto 70mph. Poor us coverage is only problem right now.


                • #9
                  Yeah, i am in the process of getting wireless broadband internet installed. At school( we have a huge wireless network. So, all across campus we can get the internet and network if we have a 802.11 card. Well, what if i put that in the car?? I could have the pc running while in class and download stuff, come back out and have my stuff. I could only use it on campus, but its a T3 connection and the cards are 11MG cards.
                  2004 F-150
                  Shuttle XPC, 80gig HD, Wireless Internet, DVD
                  "How piMP3d is your ride??"