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  • Article: spy device will cut drivers’ speed by satellite

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...678707,00.html

    Forget cameras - spy device will cut drivers’ speed by satellite

    IT IS the ultimate back seat driver. Motorists face having their cars fitted with a “spy” device that stops speeding.

    The satellite-based system will monitor the speed limit and apply the brakes or cut out the accelerator if the driver tries to exceed it. A government-funded trial has concluded that the scheme promotes safer driving.

    Drivers in London could be among the first to have the “speed spy” devices fitted. They would be offered a discount on the congestion charge if they use the system.

    The move follows a six-month trial in Leeds using 20 modified Skoda Fabias, which found that volunteer drivers paid more attention as well keeping to the speed limit. More than 1,000 lives a year could be saved if the system was fitted to all Britain’s cars, say academics at Leeds University, who ran the trial on behalf of the Department for Transport (DfT).

    It is part of a two-year research project into “intelligent speed adaptation” (ISA), which the department is funding at a cost of £2m. Results of the initial trial will be presented to ministers this week.

    A study commissioned by London’s transport planners has recommended that motorists who install it should be rewarded with a discount on the congestion charge, which tomorrow rises to £8 a day.

    The trial Skodas were fitted with a black box containing a digital map identifying the speed limits of every stretch of road in Leeds. A satellite positioning system tracked the cars’ locations.

    The device compared the car’s speed with the local limit — displayed on the dashboard — and sent a signal to the accelerator or brake pedal to slow if it was too fast. The system can be overridden to avoid a hazard.

    “The trials have been incredibly successful,” said Oliver Carsten, project leader and professor of transport safety at Leeds University.

    The DfT says it has no plans to make speed limiters mandatory but admits that it is considering creating a digital map of all Britain’s roads which would pave the way for a national ISA system.

    Edmund King, of the RAC Foundation, said limiters might make motorists less alert: “If you take too much control away the driver could switch on to autopilot.”
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    • #3
      yeah what happens if the system fails and it causes cars to accelerate without limits? that would be crazy.
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      • #4
        Or what would happen if you try to pass a slow moving vehicle that decides to speed up as you try to pass? Or what if you are on the highway, and suddenly the GPS thinks you are on the frontage road with a much lower speed limit?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by wizardPC
          Or what would happen if you try to pass a slow moving vehicle that decides to speed up as you try to pass? Or what if you are on the highway, and suddenly the GPS thinks you are on the frontage road with a much lower speed limit?
          .
          The system can be overridden to avoid a hazard.
          Nice idea... but I'm sure someone will be nice enough to hack it so that it doesn't control the engine speed
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            What happens if a jealous husband is chasing you and it keeps you from getting away? Not saying that I would be in that predicament I'm just looking out for the other guys safety
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            • #7
              i bet we have to pay for the dam devices aswell.

              This makes me laugh - they spend millions putting in speed cameras to catch us if we speed and then bring out a device that will stop us speeding all together. WTF?

              Just another way of wasting money
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              • #8
                I can't wait for some enterprising soul to market a GPS signal jamming device.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by black_swede
                  I can't wait for some enterprising soul to market a GPS signal jamming device.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 0l33l
                    Make some friends in Russia. They already have one.
                    You can make one out of a used cell phone. Do a search, I think some p2p networks have all the instructions Oh, and I don't see this happening, it's dangerous. And I'm sure they'd miss all that revenue they get from speeding tickets.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yuriy
                      You can make one out of a used cell phone. Do a search, I think some p2p networks have all the instructions Oh, and I don't see this happening, it's dangerous. And I'm sure they'd miss all that revenue they get from speeding tickets.
                      Yeh, I saw the instructions also. Not the hardest thing in the world to build. Now what's harder to build is something that fakes the signal and not just blows jams it. My idea: have the thing send out that you're on a drag strip... so no speed limit
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rickster
                        Just another way of wasting money
                        Just another way of amassing control and keeping you under their thumb.
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                        • #13
                          I don't agree that the system should automatically slow you down but I do think a digital map incorporated into a GPS system that actually knows what the speed limit on the road you are traveling on WOULD be good.

                          How many times have you approached a speed camera thinking the limit is 40MPH but not positively known that so slowed to 30 to be safe only to find 100m further on a road sign saying 40!!

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, built in speed limits would be cool for nav. Control of the car is not. However, I find it hard to believe that this would ever be implemented - think of all the lost profit for police departments...

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