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    From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every car will be monitored
    By Steve Connor, Science Editor
    Published: 22 December 2005
    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...icle334686.ece


    Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

    Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

    The network will incorporate thousands of existing CCTV cameras which are being converted to read number plates automatically night and day to provide 24/7 coverage of all motorways and main roads, as well as towns, cities, ports and petrol-station forecourts.

    By next March a central database installed alongside the Police National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35 million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning satellites.

    Already there are plans to extend the database by increasing the storage period to five years and by linking thousands of additional cameras so that details of up to 100 million number plates can be fed each day into the central databank.

    Senior police officers have described the surveillance network as possibly the biggest advance in the technology of crime detection and prevention since the introduction of DNA fingerprinting.

    But others concerned about civil liberties will be worried that the movements of millions of law-abiding people will soon be routinely recorded and kept on a central computer database for years.

    The new national data centre of vehicle movements will form the basis of a sophisticated surveillance tool that lies at the heart of an operation designed to drive criminals off the road.

    In the process, the data centre will provide unrivalled opportunities to gather intelligence data on the movements and associations of organised gangs and terrorist suspects whenever they use cars, vans or motorcycles.

    The scheme is being orchestrated by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) and has the full backing of ministers who have sanctioned the spending of 24m this year on equipment.

    More than 50 local authorities have signed agreements to allow the police to convert thousands of existing traffic cameras so they can read number plates automatically. The data will then be transmitted to Hendon via a secure police communications network.

    Chief constables are also on the verge of brokering agreements with the Highways Agency, supermarkets and petrol station owners to incorporate their own CCTV cameras into the network. In addition to cross-checking each number plate against stolen and suspect vehicles held on the Police National Computer, the national data centre will also check whether each vehicle is lawfully licensed, insured and has a valid MoT test certificate.

    "Every time you make a car journey already, you'll be on CCTV somewhere. The difference is that, in future, the car's index plates will be read as well," said Frank Whiteley, Chief Constable of Hertfordshire and chairman of the Acpo steering committee on automatic number plate recognition (ANPR).

    "What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.

    The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained.

    According to a strategy document drawn up by Acpo, the national data centre in Hendon will be at the heart of a surveillance operation that should deny criminals the use of the roads.

    "The intention is to create a comprehensive ANPR camera and reader infrastructure across the country to stop displacement of crime from area to area and to allow a comprehensive picture of vehicle movements to be captured," the Acpo strategy says.

    "This development forms the basis of a 24/7 vehicle movement database that will revolutionise arrest, intelligence and crime investigation opportunities on a national basis," it says.

    Mr Whiteley said MI5 will also use the database. "Clearly there are values for this in counter-terrorism," he said.

    "The security services will use it for purposes that I frankly don't have access to. It's part of public protection. If the security services did not have access to this, we'd be negligent."
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    So they are just revamping the traffic cameras? As long as theres nothing they put on the cars then thats okay. Its the price you pay for public services. The only people upset by this are terrorist and speeders.

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    • #3
      Big brother is watching you
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      • #4


        Depends on how its used in practise though. I seem to remember the same sort of civil liberty arguments being aired on the introduction of ID cards.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kirbycope
          So they are just revamping the traffic cameras? As long as theres nothing they put on the cars then thats okay. Its the price you pay for public services.
          There is something on your car. It's called the license plate. By your logic, they could have put a transponder in your car five years ago, and now they're installing readers, but since they didn't put anything (new) on your car, it's okay. Having all roads monitored by plate reading/cataloguing cameras is basically the same as having a transponder on your window (of course, I won't go into the proposals to introduce RFID chips into registration stickers)

          I didn't realize that having every movement you ever make in your vehicle recorded for 2-5 years by the government (and/or any private corp that is contracted to handle the data) was considered the "price of public services." Hello? TAXES are the price for public services.

          The only people upset by this are terrorist and speeders.
          Ahahahaha..... "terrorists".... right.
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          • #6
            This wouldn't have any effect on me since my car stays brokedown
            so much they wouldn't be able to get any pics of my plate unless
            they aimed the cameras into my driveway
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            • #7
              I think its a waste of money...

              As if they can really track criminals. The criminals can always change number plates, hide it or whatever or even change it to a random one at will.

              WTF

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kirbycope
                So they are just revamping the traffic cameras? As long as theres nothing they put on the cars then thats okay. Its the price you pay for public services. The only people upset by this are terrorist and speeders.
                So you never go over the speed limit . . . . . .
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                • #9
                  Let's see... The next part goes "It is only targeted at law abiding citizens".
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                  • #10
                    "Senior police officers have described the surveillance network as possibly the biggest advance in the technology of crime detection and prevention since the introduction of DNA fingerprinting."

                    By strange coincidence it's also the biggest advancement towards being a police state in history.

                    Here's a strange and wacky idea for these cops who like this plan....GET OFF YOU FAT LAZY ASSES AND DO ACTUAL POLICE WORK LIKE YOUR PREDECESSORS DID!!!
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                    • #11
                      Thing is - the 'general' public loves this stuff. We recently had a big fuss over holding "terror" suspects without charge. The public thought it was a great idea to hold them for longer. Unfortunately,this like any draconian law, is fine until your the one on the receiving end. The U.K is basically undoing all of the sacrifices and efforts our fathers/gradfathers made in the world wars. I mean the whole point of terrorism is to make us change our way of life. Every time we remove another freedom, we are goose stepping one step closer to losing the fight (if there is one.....)

                      *I'll put me soap box away now and go sit in a dark room for a while

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by daveg360
                        I mean the whole point of terrorism is to make us change our way of life. Every time we remove another freedom, we are goose stepping one step closer to losing the fight (
                        Amen!
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                        • #13
                          here here
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                          • #14
                            What happen if you are a type of person who loves to drive around? does that mean they will be watching you as well?

                            I love driving, sometimes I just feel like driving around the block a few times, I certainly dont feel comfortable being wathched where I go and what I do. Im sure Im not alone here who have those habbits.

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                            • #15
                              I drive round testing Freedrive at times .... that'll fool them hehehehe.

                              Time for some camera resistant paint ....

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