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    I am thinking of getting a bluetooth gps mouse because:

    1) I am tired of iGuidance whining at me about not being able to find the gps receiver.

    2) I want to eliminate some of the wires in my car.

    Question is, I never had a bluetooth gps so will it take care of #1? I know iGuidance hates coming back from hibernate with the gps usb mouse (rikaline 6010), so would using a bluetooth one fix that issue? Also does windows immediatly pair the bluetooth gps once it comes back from hibernation? I searched the forums but not much talk about bluetooth gps's. TIA

  • #2
    Well.. If you don't wire your BT GPS receiver to a powersupply...
    1) you'll have to nudge it each time you start the computer because most BT GPS units auto shutdown after 10min or so of inactivity.
    2) So now it will have to be on the front dash w/in reach instead of tucked away as you might have previously planned.

    My advise: go serial (BR355).. zero issues w/ hibernation, no need for drivers.
    •Micke

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    • #3
      I normally use my old garmin via serial, but lately have been using my gpsslim236 over bluetooth without much problem.

      With bluetooth I'm using Widcom's drivers with a Dlink dongle so I have it set to connect to the gps over a certain com port (say COM 8), then I set xport to run at startup and have it connect to the GPS on COM8 and split to two additional ports (14 & 15), if I turn the computer back on and turn the gps on the bluetooth pairing is automatic and usually iGuidance won't fuss at me if I keep it on that same serial port. I mainly went w/ bluetooth because I also have an iPaq that I would like to be able to use with it as a portable setup, otherwise just plain old serial (not usb) is easier and less "moody". About half the time I still use a real old garmin unit via serial that I've had hooked up in the car for the past year.
      Nick
      '99 Ford Escort ZX2 CarPC <-- RIP Feb '07

      2006 Chevy Equinox LS (Current Project)

      **VIA EPIA PD 1ghz Mobo, OPUS 150, 7" LinITX LCD touchscreen, 512 Ram, 60Gig HD, DLink Bluetooth, Belkin 802.11g wireless,

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      • #4
        Thanks for the info guys. If I hid my bluetooth gps in my sunglass compartment would it still work? I have a power that I can jack into in there to power the unit but it would not have clear line of site to the sky. I know my rikaline wont work without it having clear line of site, are the bluetooth ones any better??? It would be in the sunglass holder near the roof of the car.

        THanks

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        • #5
          Which chipset does it use? I think the one I have uses the SirfStarIII and I can have pretty much anywhere in the car and get a lock, so if it's a new/good one I'm sure it would get a lock, only thing is the signal will be a little weaker so you'd use the lock more easily if going under trees, heavy cloud/rain, etc....
          Nick
          '99 Ford Escort ZX2 CarPC <-- RIP Feb '07

          2006 Chevy Equinox LS (Current Project)

          **VIA EPIA PD 1ghz Mobo, OPUS 150, 7" LinITX LCD touchscreen, 512 Ram, 60Gig HD, DLink Bluetooth, Belkin 802.11g wireless,

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          • #6
            I have yet to buy one im just researching now to see if it is a good alternative to a wired usb gps mouse.

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            • #7
              Gotcha, I would say that unless you really want the bluetooth functionality or need it to be portable then a wired solution would probably be more stable. Or find one that you can use both ways, this GPSslim236 is bluetooth but you can get a cable and use it as a wired gps mouse as well, though I haven't done that yet with it.
              Nick
              '99 Ford Escort ZX2 CarPC <-- RIP Feb '07

              2006 Chevy Equinox LS (Current Project)

              **VIA EPIA PD 1ghz Mobo, OPUS 150, 7" LinITX LCD touchscreen, 512 Ram, 60Gig HD, DLink Bluetooth, Belkin 802.11g wireless,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by nkotch
                Gotcha, I would say that unless you really want the bluetooth functionality or need it to be portable then a wired solution would probably be more stable. Or find one that you can use both ways, this GPSslim236 is bluetooth but you can get a cable and use it as a wired gps mouse as well, though I haven't done that yet with it.
                I have the older GR-231 with the serial cable and haven't had much luck with it. Can't figure out how to get the unit to automatically turn on when the computer is on. I thought if it was a serial device, when power is turned on, unit would switch on.

                I haven't had any issues with BT pairing. Everytime IG is opened, it automatically connects via the DLink dongle. I'm probably going to just hard wire a 12v-5v adapter so the GPS stays on all the time. Won't have to worry about acquiring a signal at least...


                Biostar M7NCG 400 ver 7.2 AMD Mobile Athlon 1.1GHz (@ 1GHz), Kingston PC2700 512mb WD 80gig HD Custom Case Opus 150W PS Lilliput 7" TS D-Link DBT-120 BT D-Link DWL-G122 WiFi Holux GR-231 GPS nLited XP Pro iGuidance RoadRunner frontend

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nkotch
                  I normally use my old garmin via serial, but lately have been using my gpsslim236 over bluetooth without much problem.
                  nkotch: do you have to power the unit up everytime you want to use GPS? I have the older GR-231 and have to power it up everytime. Is it portable? How do you charge it?

                  When I put my GR-231 into my sunglass compartment, I went from a strong 9-10 sat signal down to a marginal 3-4 sat signal. Your mileage may vary.


                  Biostar M7NCG 400 ver 7.2 AMD Mobile Athlon 1.1GHz (@ 1GHz), Kingston PC2700 512mb WD 80gig HD Custom Case Opus 150W PS Lilliput 7" TS D-Link DBT-120 BT D-Link DWL-G122 WiFi Holux GR-231 GPS nLited XP Pro iGuidance RoadRunner frontend

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                  • #10
                    Are you asking about the old serial one or the bluetooth?

                    With the old one (http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsII/) it has a plug in the back that you wire serial and power connection to, so right now I've got it sort of hardwired into 12v from the battery that I have available under the seat. I usually keep that one on all time just because it's so old (not a parallel receiver) and takes to long to acquire a cold fix.

                    When I use the bluetooth one I just use it's internal battery and switch it on and off.

                    How is that GR-231 powered? Usually with the serial gps units I've seen they also have a usb or ps2 connection for power, or an internal battery.
                    Nick
                    '99 Ford Escort ZX2 CarPC <-- RIP Feb '07

                    2006 Chevy Equinox LS (Current Project)

                    **VIA EPIA PD 1ghz Mobo, OPUS 150, 7" LinITX LCD touchscreen, 512 Ram, 60Gig HD, DLink Bluetooth, Belkin 802.11g wireless,

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                    • #11
                      Sorry for the confusion...

                      I was talking about the BT one. The GR-231 is the old version of the GR-236. It is powered by a Nokia cell phone battery. I have the USB->Serial cable from Holux. The PC shows the USB device, but I still have to switch it on manually. When the PC is on, it charges the batt; when batt dies, it has to be switched on manually. That's a PIA because I want to mount it remotely. I've seen a few circuits which could work, but portability goes out the door!!

                      It would be nice if the GPS came on when it detected power applied via the USB.


                      Biostar M7NCG 400 ver 7.2 AMD Mobile Athlon 1.1GHz (@ 1GHz), Kingston PC2700 512mb WD 80gig HD Custom Case Opus 150W PS Lilliput 7" TS D-Link DBT-120 BT D-Link DWL-G122 WiFi Holux GR-231 GPS nLited XP Pro iGuidance RoadRunner frontend

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                      • #12
                        Mine's similar then, USB will charge it but power switch has to be manually turn off/on. What I would do (and probably will do with mine) is use an external antenna (they're not that much) so that you can put the antenna in a good spot (rear deck, outside, etc...) and then just keep the gps unit somewhere hand where you can switch it off/on easily. Will probably keep mine in center right under parking brake, that way I can easily get to it and when I need to take it out to use in another car or portable just grab it and unplug the antenna and usb/power cable.

                        Could also hack the USB cable to wire up constant power to it....guessing it takes 5v?
                        Nick
                        '99 Ford Escort ZX2 CarPC <-- RIP Feb '07

                        2006 Chevy Equinox LS (Current Project)

                        **VIA EPIA PD 1ghz Mobo, OPUS 150, 7" LinITX LCD touchscreen, 512 Ram, 60Gig HD, DLink Bluetooth, Belkin 802.11g wireless,

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nkotch
                          Could also hack the USB cable to wire up constant power to it....guessing it takes 5v?
                          Yes, it takes 5V. What I'm going to do is get a Nokia charger (since the battery is a Nokia type), cut the plug end off and splice on a USB mini-plug and hardwire it to the 12V line that is alway on in the car. This way I don't have to build a 5V dc regulator since it built into the charger.

                          A true USB mouse would be nice...don't have to power it on and off.


                          Biostar M7NCG 400 ver 7.2 AMD Mobile Athlon 1.1GHz (@ 1GHz), Kingston PC2700 512mb WD 80gig HD Custom Case Opus 150W PS Lilliput 7" TS D-Link DBT-120 BT D-Link DWL-G122 WiFi Holux GR-231 GPS nLited XP Pro iGuidance RoadRunner frontend

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wallaceacura
                            Yes, it takes 5V. What I'm going to do is get a Nokia charger (since the battery is a Nokia type), cut the plug end off and splice on a USB mini-plug and hardwire it to the 12V line that is alway on in the car. This way I don't have to build a 5V dc regulator since it built into the charger.

                            A true USB mouse would be nice...don't have to power it on and off.
                            hey, that sounds exacly like what i did:
                            http://mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71453
                            ~0okami.Digital

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