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    I have been searching and not really finding anything difinitive. What are my best bets for setting up a dash cam or cams to record the world as I drive? Plenty of people are interested in doing this so please help us all to get this going.

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    I think my thread is still on the first page of the "input devices" titled something about pc's, cameras, and integration. It defines pros and cons of some methods of recording and has a couple camera links in there as well.

    If you want a discussion on different cameras, someone else might need to chime in (soundman, don't you work with cameras a lot and have that knowledge?).

    If you want a general guideline for hooking up the cameras, a little insight of how you might want it would help. Do you care about quality? cpu hit? webcam? composite? lots of options, but we're here to help!
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    • #3
      I usually go for cheaper equipment. I am running an atom 330, would I need to upgrade to get a good quality stream? I'd like the system to be useful for capturing interesting moments, and documenting any "incidents" that might occur.

      I did see that other thread and that's what got me thinking about it.

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      • #4
        I did see that other thread and that's what got me thinking about it.
        More people probably would've seen that other thread (my thinking is most who post set their subscriptions automatically to those threads).

        Anyways, I can't really help ya out yet, as that's why I started the other one. I'm sure someone will help out though. The one thing I did remember was that either recording and/or viewing the cameras will cause a cpu hit regardless.
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        • #5
          Here a suggestion: Figure out WHY you want to record first. That will save you a TON of time, money and problems later.

          1. If all you want is documentation for insurance purposes, buy an all-in-one hardware solution, mounted it and forget about it. There is NO PC based solution that will work as well, be as reliable and be cost competitive.
          2. If you only need a single camera, and you want to be able to see what it sees, and record it, there are a number of good solutions, several of them free. Mostly depends on if you want integration into a specific frontend, or only a need stand-alone application. Using a webcam allows for easier wiring and setup, better compatibility with most systems. The trade-off can be that some will have a greater impact on system performance than others.
          3. If you need multiple cameras and true dvr capabilities, as well as real time monitoring, your choices become more limited, more complex and much more expensive. The other thread goes into that in some detail.

          If you can live without the gee-whiz factor of viewing the "live' video, you can get off pretty cheap. Otherwise, accept that it's going to be just like most carPC projects....more complex, more expensive and arguably more fun than you originally planned.

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          • #6
            I don't currently use any front end. I just run windows 7 and set winamp to play before I get rolling.

            I guess you are talking about one of those go pro stand alone things right? They are cool enough but, I'd like to integrate with my pc because I have it there. I also have a scantool usb thingy and I read I could get a mpg overlay and gps overlay with this minicam program right?

            If I got a usb webcam and minicam I could have a pretty good shot at getting this working? What cam should I get and how tasking will this be for my atom 330?

            I don't need to view the live stream, just want to save the stream incase I get hit or if I want to watch a near miss replay.

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            • #7
              i can afford this one:

              http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Life.../dp/B002XN7C6W

              Seems like a good deal right?

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              • #8
                I am looking at getting one of these for my Charger with a full 360 camera system.

                http://rvssystems.com/index.php/mobi...obile-dvr.html

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by meryan00 View Post
                  I am looking at getting one of these for my Charger with a full 360 camera system.

                  http://rvssystems.com/index.php/mobi...obile-dvr.html
                  VERY nice....just note the 5 amp power draw. Probably not anything you'd want to leave running when the engine's off, that's for sure. A lot of very cool features, though. You'd could definitely build one heck of a surviellence system with that as the foundation. Any idea on price?

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                  • #10
                    ^ looks like it is about $300:

                    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ni_Mobile.html
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                    • #11
                      So nobody has a dashcam running? The five threads I can find on here all end with no actual help. Kinda sad.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                        So nobody has a dashcam running? The five threads I can find on here all end with no actual help. Kinda sad.
                        Oh, I wouldn't say "nobody"....

                        http://forums.fluxmedia.net/plugin-d...3-dashcam.html

                        Also, a lot of folks use MiniCam.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                          So nobody has a dashcam running? The five threads I can find on here all end with no actual help. Kinda sad.
                          Post 5 pretty much covered all your options and succinctly answered your question in post 1. If you're expecting us to give you reviews of all the available cameras, software options, and CPU loads, and demos of our systems - you're probably out of luck. What specific help are you looking for? If you want a purpose-built system you need to do the research, figure out what you want to do, build it, test it, repeat. I could easily tell you what I have and how I integrated it, but as soon as you try to duplicate what I did, you're gonna run into issues I either ignored, unknowingly fixed, forgot what the fix was, or never encountered. And in the end, what satisfies me may not satisfy you.

                          Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                          If I got a usb webcam and minicam I could have a pretty good shot at getting this working? What cam should I get and how tasking will this be for my atom 330?
                          The answer to the first question is Yes, but. The answer to the second question is up to you to figure out. Finding someone with your exact hardware and the same system expectations as you is an unreasonable question to ask. What cam - whichever one you like. How much will it task your CPU - you tell us when you fire it up.

                          Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                          I also have a scantool usb thingy and I read I could get a mpg overlay and gps overlay with this minicam program right?
                          Last I checked minicam gets its overlay data from your GPS via a GPS interface, not scantool, so this probably won't work.

                          Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                          I don't currently use any front end. I just run windows 7 and set winamp to play before I get rolling.... I'd like to integrate with my pc because I have it there.
                          I hate to say it, but your expectations of support from here may be a little too high. When I first saw this thread, checked your post count, and searched the site for webcam/minicam/RRCam threads, I figured most your questions could be answered via SEARCH. Now you tell us you want a PC solution, yet you don't use a front-end tells me your goal of a dashcam with gps overlay is going to require a steep learning curve. And this site is not known for spoon-feeding.

                          My suggestion to you is step back a minute and ask yourself, "What is the ultimate goal of your CarPC?" Figure out everything you ultimately want to do. Start researching what software options are available to accomplish ALL of your goals. Do more research on what incompatibilities exist, what issues previous users encountered and how they overcame them. At the same time, start researching hardware to achieve your goals - this will probably require you to buy hardware and personally do the experimentation (a lot of hardware specific software tweaking, front-end tweaking, and some OS tweaking will be required to make everything work together well and reduce your CPU load).

                          I'm a little lazy and not an expert in either software, hardware or OS programming so it took me 4 years to get my system stable. And everytime I add a new functionality, modify existing items, or update my software; I know it could cause new issues to be overcome. The tweaking never ends. Are you ready to take this on?
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                          • #14
                            This thread is now what I find when searching google for Dashcam and/or minicam. Which makes it all the more frustrating. I am working my way through the 61 page thread vegasguy posted. So far I have found many answers atleast to questions I haven't asked but should have. It's just that the info is so spread out. the threads that pop up when I search are, for some reason, the unanswered ones.
                            The atom 330 platform I thought was pretty popular. I hoped I could get a definite yes/no before I bought in. I guess while I am at it I should try to turn this thread into a place where I can consolidate the info found other places.

                            My new assumptions are that recording 720p at 30fps on an atom330 is probably not going to work, but perhaps with the right codec I could hope for one camera recording at 15fps at less than 720p while still listening to winamp, but this is only my new hunch based on my initial searches. Still haven't found anybody who has an atom 330 running a dash cam, but one person I think said he had a webcam taking 70% cpu on his atom 330.

                            The logitech something 9000 is the new camera of choice because it can stand the heat and isn't plagued with autofocus problems.

                            It's not that expensive to buy in $55 @amazon

                            Does minicam work without a frontend? Are there any other options I should know about for software? I see vegas guy has dashcam for centrafuse, but I don't have centrafuse.

                            If my situation doesn't seem workable, which upgrade do I need: Better Processor/motherboard? USB3? a frontend? all of the above? something else entirely?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                              This thread is now what I find when searching google for Dashcam and/or minicam. Which makes it all the more frustrating. I am working my way through the 61 page thread vegasguy posted. So far I have found many answers atleast to questions I haven't asked but should have. It's just that the info is so spread out. the threads that pop up when I search are, for some reason, the unanswered ones.
                              The atom 330 platform I thought was pretty popular. I hoped I could get a definite yes/no before I bought in. I guess while I am at it I should try to turn this thread into a place where I can consolidate the info found other places.
                              Now that sounds like a man on a mission.

                              Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                              Does minicam work without a frontend?
                              I believe minicam does have a stand alone mode.

                              Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                              Are there any other options I should know about for software? I see vegas guy has dashcam for centrafuse, but I don't have centrafuse.
                              If you want GPS overlay you need to research "XPort". And if you choose Ride Runner as your front-end, you need to check out RRCam.

                              Originally posted by bramlet View Post
                              If my situation doesn't seem workable, which upgrade do I need: Better Processor/motherboard? USB3? a frontend? all of the above? something else entirely?
                              More research.
                              Last edited by GizmoQ; 07-28-2011, 09:51 PM.
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