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  • Help - tips on motorising my laptop lcd

    Hi Guys,

    Sorry for the English.

    I always wanted to put a laptop in my car...however they are not cheap to come by. A friend of mine bought a new P4 and gave me his old one, so i scored a luck! This is how i went about doing this project. I stripped the entire laptop down and took of the LCD. Extended the VGA cables. Next i soldered wires running from the laptop power switch and ran it to the standard blank spaces for the switch that i installed (so it looked like there were no extra switches dangling around). i used a DC to DC converter to power the unit. Tested this and all was working fine. I then ran the audio cables to my head unit's auxiliary input that is wired up to a couple of amplifiers for some good sound!

    I then took an old cd-rom drive and made a tray for a miniature keyboard and mouse (both wireless) and connected the wireless dongle to the usb port. the tray that i made was attached to the cd-rom door, so when i press the open/close button on the rom, it brings out the keyboard and mouse and when not in use, it is tucked away under the dash (not visible). i have also added a usb webcam that runs to the front bumper. I did this just for the fun of it.....but it could also prove to be useful, in which, my cars suspension is lowered and it will help when my lady friends park it in front of a curb

    Next i took an old scanner and dismantled it. I took of everything that was in the scanner head and disposed of it. (like the mirrors and circuits). The only parts i have left is the gear mechanism, belt (the belt that moves the scanner head), scanner read head and the outer casing. Next i removed the motor because it is a stepper motor and requires a controller to turn it. You could try using a controller from an old floppy disk drive.....but thats a whole new project on it own!! I instead used a 12v motor (low rpm) that had enough torque to push the scanner head.
    You probably have figured out by now that the LCD will be attached to the scanner head. I then connected a DPDT switch so that it changes the polarity on the motor for direction. These were hooked up to limit switches are fixed to both ends of the scanner so that when the LCD is pushed out it will reach the limit switch and cut the power to the motor and do the same when it is going into the tucked away position. (EVERYTHING WILL BE HIDDEN WHEN NOT IN USE! )

    THIS IS WERE I NEED YOUR HELP!
    I need the LCD to come out of the dash and then tilt. Is there a mechanism i can build to make this work? Please if you have any ideas even if they sound a bit odd/dodgy please run it by me......you'll never know it could work! At the bottom is a drawing i got of the net somewhere. It did not help much, but maybe with your input i can get this project of the ground. Much Appreciated!
    Here is my mail address [email protected]


    Attached Files
    VW GOLF MK1
    2.0L 8V
    T3/T4 TURBO
    NOS

  • #2
    bumped in to familiar task
    and came up with this kind of idea:
    in attached picture: grey and black lines - guidelines
    pink - cord
    big grey circle motor
    as the motor turnes- it gets screen goint down the guide lines: grey pulls it out, black does the tilt work

    idea is pretty RAW, help is needed
    Attached Files

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    • #3
      Thanks for the tips, and yes the idea is gonna need a lot of work. However i'm getting there slowly....will post pics as i go along for the other guys who have a similar idea.
      VW GOLF MK1
      2.0L 8V
      T3/T4 TURBO
      NOS

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      • #4
        BTW in what direction do you need to tilt your screen when it comes out?
        Up or down?
        In my case it's down, so I'm depending on the forces of gravity in some way =]

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        • #5
          scanner

          Well mine needs to tilt upwards as i am installing in the centre console of the car. But force is not an issue for me because the scanner has a small gearbox and this produces a whole lot of torque! If i have to hold the scanner head to its side and power up the motor, it starts to move the bottom part of the scanner (upwards)!!! Are you also using a scanner? I have got that entire part working fine with the limit switches. Think i might have something with the slide and tilt motion.....let me have a go at it and i will let you know if it works out.
          VW GOLF MK1
          2.0L 8V
          T3/T4 TURBO
          NOS

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          • #6
            I was thinking of using some smaller motor that I have from smthing ripped apart, don't even remember what exactly =]
            do you have pic's of things you're doing?

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            • #7
              cd Player

              Yes i guess you'll have to use another motor....the scanner motors are usually bi-polar stepper motors and a controller is needed to turn them, so i don't recommend it. I used a 12V dc motor from an old home cd player. It was used to open and close the cd player door. All i did was hook it up to a LM7805C voltage regulator to feed it with 5 Volts so its does not spin too fast.....that worked out pretty good! I have pics at home of the scanner with the motor and limit switches installed......i will post them on Monday. In the meantime i'm going to work on the railings, slide and tilt motion this weekend
              VW GOLF MK1
              2.0L 8V
              T3/T4 TURBO
              NOS

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              • #8
                I would try to P/M Bugbyte and ask him to leave his 2 cents. He created a motorized screen for his setup.
                Nirwana Project, the Android/Win 7 hybrid system!

                1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                4X MK808b
                3x Perixx Touchpads
                3x 7 inch Screens
                1X 7 inch motorized Screen
                1x Win 7 PC

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                • #9
                  Need more info on this - come out of the dash and then tilt....how? Does it come up out of the dash and then tilt back, or forward, or what? It is on an articulating arm like the drawing in post one?



                  My screen is very simple. It flips up out of the dash. A single motion from flat to open and then back again. I used a servo for this purpose but if I did it over again, I would use a jackscrew and worm gear mechanism. Details are here.

                  I am currently reworking the controller for my device to allow it to open and close at the push of a dedicated button. I found that depending on the computer to open and close the screen means you can't see the screen until the computer boots and runs the open/close program. Often, you need to see information before that. I have a friend who is helping me use an Arduino board to develop the parameters for a PIC he will program, then we will build a dedicated circuit for it.

                  It doesn't have to be that complicated, though. If you wish, you can use a Mini-SSC serial port controller like I have used in the past. It can be programmed with BASIC.
                  Originally posted by ghettocruzer
                  I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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                  • #10
                    @BugByte

                    Thanks for your response BugByte.
                    Ok heres what i wanted the LCD to do. It must slide out facing down and then tilt back, (yes, like in the mechanism shown in my first post - it's going to be situated at the centre console of a VW golf MK1). I have so far got the scanner part right and still trying to figure out what i'm going to use for the railings that the LCD will run on. I'm not too worried about how it starts up and shuts down. For the startup and shut down i used a (third) N.O. limit switch that is situated near the middle of the scanner

                    So when the LCD moves it makes the limit switch (momentarily) to switch the laptop on and again to put it in hibernation.

                    i just need some ideas on the tilt and slide regarding the railings and the actual mechanism that will work for this........so if you have any ideas, please let me know. Thanks for your time.
                    Attached Files
                    VW GOLF MK1
                    2.0L 8V
                    T3/T4 TURBO
                    NOS

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                    • #11
                      If you take a look at the first picture that you posted you will see how the mecahnism works:

                      Step 1: The mechanism will be as far back as it goes on that archemedic screw.

                      Step 2: The mechanism is pushed forward by this screw and in turn the arm is moved rightward thus forcing the screen outward of the opening.

                      Step 3: Once the arm goes beyond horizontal it forces the hinges to move to counter act the downward force of the arm and thusly the second smaller arm is forced into the upright position, creating a 'V' shape between the two arms and consequenctly the screen is folded upward.

                      It is just a case of pulleys and levers, although i really wouldn't reccommend a pulley!
                      Hope this helps!

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                      • #12
                        I've done a lot of motorization. best advice I can give is, forget abot the motorization initially. before you can even think to motorize something, it must first at least be mechanically sound. you should devise tracks & pivots, get it to be stable & move through it's course of motion... then you can think about adding motorization... first you need it to slide out & pivot into position solidly, & then slide up & back in... it should do this & be solid, like a door or a drawer or a pivoting slide... then, motorization can be added...

                        motorization can be done with an actuator or a worm gear setup, but my favorite is to use a window or sunroof motor & use cables to operate. this allows a larger stronger motor to be remote mounted & just have to worry about the space for the cables. limit switches at either end of travel will insure that the parts don't get twisted up by the high torque of a motor like this... chances of you making your mechanical parts efficent enough to be able to use a tiny scanner motor are slim to none... you need to make everything solid & then you need a motor setup with enough power to get the job done solidly & reliably. limit switches will stop the motor on each end

                        set it up like you want it to be manual, once you get to that point, then you can add motorization...
                        MY NEWEST INSTALL:modded infiniti fx with big screen

                        first windows carpc install........my liquid cooled LVDS screen :D

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by turbocad6 View Post
                          I've done a lot of motorization. best advice I can give is, forget abot the motorization initially. before you can even think to motorize something, it must first at least be mechanically sound. you should devise tracks & pivots, get it to be stable & move through it's course of motion... then you can think about adding motorization... first you need it to slide out & pivot into position solidly, & then slide up & back in... it should do this & be solid, like a door or a drawer or a pivoting slide... then, motorization can be added...

                          motorization can be done with an actuator or a worm gear setup, but my favorite is to use a window or sunroof motor & use cables to operate. this allows a larger stronger motor to be remote mounted & just have to worry about the space for the cables. limit switches at either end of travel will insure that the parts don't get twisted up by the high torque of a motor like this... chances of you making your mechanical parts efficent enough to be able to use a tiny scanner motor are slim to none... you need to make everything solid & then you need a motor setup with enough power to get the job done solidly & reliably. limit switches will stop the motor on each end

                          set it up like you want it to be manual, once you get to that point, then you can add motorization...
                          Worm Gear!

                          I was trying to think of what it was called for ages! I put Archemedic Screw which is similar but not the same! lol

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