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  • OK, I give in, but I need some advice! K-90 mod!

    I had bought a K-90 motorized flip out screen. I wanted something that hid away and was not noticable, but also were I did not have to mod my dash. Well as time went on, I saw all the cool things you guys were doing with your cars and dashes and I started to get jealous. Well last night was the breaking point and I decided to mod my dash, kind of, im ordering a dash so I can mod that one, then if I have issues put the old one back in, without having to worry about damage.

    Now my question is, how do you convert a flip out to a stationary? I know most of you are thinking, why doesnt he replace the screen? Well I like the auto switching for the reverse cam. I have no idea how the mechanics of the screen work though.... Can someone fill me in.... I notice that when the screen slides out, it is off, then when opens to a certain point, turns on and vise versa. How would I get rid of that issue? Also how would I take out the motor, simply cut it off? Last but not least, and my main concern, is that may dash is one piece... So I was thinking of molding the screen into that, but keep the back half of the unit... you know with all the connections and guts of the monitor.... Since the screen will be forward and the guts farther back, I am worried that the ribbon that connects the screen to the back half may not be long enough. Is there a place I can buy a longer ribbon?

    Thanx in advance for any help you can give.
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  • #2
    would selling your current in dash lcd be an option? Then get a xenarc or something. I have a vm84 from short circuit and it was very easy to tear into and work with. I think this would be way easier, just a thought. I have no idea how you would make your in dash lcd work but I'm sure it's possible, just more difficult.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BREWDOG52 View Post
      would selling your current in dash lcd be an option? Then get a xenarc or something. I have a vm84 from short circuit and it was very easy to tear into and work with. I think this would be way easier, just a thought. I have no idea how you would make your in dash lcd work but I'm sure it's possible, just more difficult.
      Can you give me a link to the site? Does it have the auto switching feature for reverse?
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      • #4
        yes it has an acc wire to hook into your backup lights that will auto switch to an rca input, I haven't hooked mine up yet though because I don't have a backup cam. I'm sure there is better displays out there but I am very happy with mine, but can't compare it with anything else. here is a link

        http://www.short-circuit.com/product/VM84.html

        edt: it also has a fm tuner and speaker, but I didn't really find a use for. and if you don't plan on taking it out of it's casing it kind of looks ghetto with an antenna coming through the top ,
        here is a link to my fab job using this screen,
        http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/fabr...o-install.html

        not the prettiest install but it was my first attempt, now that I know what I'm doing I'm gonna have another go at it. It does look better than what the pictures show though, after I cleaned the dust and traces of blood from my sliced finger

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        • #5
          Ok I found it, but I do not see that it has the auto switching feature, where when I go in reverse the screen automatically shows the reverse cam, then when i go in drive, switches back to PC.

          Here is another question. I am very happy with Lilliput screens, particurally the EBY701 and its wide screen aspect ratio. Is it possable to swap the displays only, but still use the guts of the K-90?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BREWDOG52 View Post
            yes it has an acc wire to hook into your backup lights that will auto switch to an rca input, I haven't hooked mine up yet though because I don't have a backup cam. I'm sure there is better displays out there but I am very happy with mine, but can't compare it with anything else. here is a link

            http://www.short-circuit.com/product/VM84.html

            edt: it also has a fm tuner and speaker, but I didn't really find a use for. and if you don't plan on taking it out of it's casing it kind of looks ghetto with an antenna coming through the top ,
            here is a link to my fab job using this screen,
            http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/fabr...o-install.html

            not the prettiest install but it was my first attempt, now that I know what I'm doing I'm gonna have another go at it. It does look better than what the pictures show though, after I cleaned the dust and traces of blood from my sliced finger
            OK, i see it, but its not wide screen.... I really love the VM92 but its out of stock :-(... would that model have the auto switching.... why doesnt the manual say it or not.... Im scared that the 9 would be to big though :-(

            Cool install..... see that screen is too tall.... I have to get a wide screen!!!!!!!!!

            I have been spoiled by the look of the EBY701.... So back to my second question, can I use the K-90 guts and a EBY701 dispaly and use them together? So I would be using all of the circuits from the K-90 but the display of they EBY701
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            • #7
              can't answer that, but the vm84 does have the option to switch to a reverse cam then back to vga when out of reverse.

              Edit: not sure about the vm92. yeah it is a tall screen, 4.3 aspect ratio not 16:9.
              also the brightness is a little lower than the specs I've seen on diferrent brands, but since mine is recessed quit a bit it shades out the sun pretty well, so it might not be the best for some.

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              • #8
                I just looked at the manual and on the second page under features/function it lists it as rearview system.

                Edit: vm92 lists rearview as well, but as you said out of stock
                vm80 is widescreen and has the rearview sytem
                vm70 didn't see it listed

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BREWDOG52 View Post
                  I just looked at the manual and on the second page under features/function it lists it as rearview system.
                  I guess thats what happens when your still up at 3:30 AM and tired, lol. Maybe I should sell the K-90 and try to find some type of auto switching solution. Do you think there is a mod that I can do to a Lilliput to make it switch to AV2 when I hit reverse? Say for example modify the board holding the buttons?
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                  • #10
                    Lol, I hear ya, it's only 1:00am here so I guess I'm a little fresher, I'm sure it can be done, but that is kind of over my head, probably like you said though hpok up a relay or something to the input switch. ?

                    also sorry for taking this thread a different direction than what you were originally asking, I'm sure someone can give you a solution for using your in-dash lcd.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BREWDOG52 View Post
                      Lol, I hear ya, it's only 1:00am here so I guess I'm a little fresher, I'm sure it can be done, but that is kind of over my head, probably like you said though hpok up a relay or something to the input switch. ?

                      also sorry for taking this thread a different direction than what you were originally asking, I'm sure someone can give you a solution for using your in-dash lcd.
                      I think im going to change the topic though....... make it Using 2 diffrent screen components!
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                      • #12
                        right on, hope you find a solution that will work well for you. cheers.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BREWDOG52 View Post
                          right on, hope you find a solution that will work well for you. cheers.
                          Seems that going with a wide screen may make CF look stretched, so back to square one...... Use the original screen and make it stationary. How do I do that though?
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                          • #14
                            Id love to hear if you manage to sucessfully turn your k90 into a stationary screen. I too am also starting to get jealous at how everyone's moulded screens look so nice compared to my k301, which sticks out too much.

                            If you still want to give it a go, you could first try to have the screen in the fliped out position, then cut power to it so that it stays that way. Then, you could desolder the wires feeding the motors so that your screen will stay that way upon power up/down. Also, there appears to be some sort of sensor which senses how fully extended the screen is. I think it is some type of resistive based mechanism, and it *may* need to be hacked somehow to trick the screen (or not). Once you have sucessfully managed to keep the screen in a stationary position and still be able to power it on/off normally, then maybe you could go about de-connecting the screen from the single DIN base, extending the wires, then securing everything to make it fit in dash as a single stationary unit.

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                            • #15
                              Well today I looked at the screen.... i think there is promise. There is some kind of slide bracket that moves forward, once those brackets reach a certain point the gears turn on and raise the screen..... what caught my attention those is the ribbon.... it looks fairly long and there is only one to worry about. I see one sensor for the close position and assume there is one for the open posistion. I decided to use the "I am not ready to take apart my screen" method and took a sheet of paper and traced around the frame of the screen.... if i leave the buttons on the bottom of the screen it barely fits.... if I move the buttons then it will fit perfectly..... So Im praying that when i take the screen apart that it isnt some large piece all connected together, but seperate boards so i can move the buttons some place else. Usually I am not excited about doing these kinds of things (possably destroying a perfectly good monitor), but i have hope with this project. Today, i'll take apart the screen and take detailed photos.
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