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  • New EBY-701 Problem..

    First the wiring: the monitor's + and - are hardwired to the cig lighter.

    The problem: when I start the car and open the mapbox (monitor is hidden in there, w/ hinges), the screen flickers for a very long time. It flashes rapidly from the blue "NO INPUT SIGNAL" to windows, and it usually won't stop until I start driving. Sometimes when I make a turn, the image dies out again, and it flickers from NIS to windows. There have been a few times that the monitor goes black, and the power button flickers from blue to red rapidly as well.

    I doubt that it's the VGA cable since it's screwed in tight, and I doubt it's the connector on the screen, since the monitor stays on (signal and power cables join into one connector that plugs in behind the screen). It can't be my onboard graphics dying on me since there would be no image whatsoever. I'm thinking it's something within the lili, but I'm not sure if I can fix it, or if I have to replace the monitor. Could this be from heat damage? The monitor resides in a small compartment that's on top of my dash, but when I'm at work, I always put the windshield sunblocker up.

    A part of me is hoping it's the monitor, since I want to upgrade to a transflective screen (w/ a touch controller that WORKS), but I don't want to shell out the huge amount of cash if I can fix what I have for $40. Not to mention, the EBY-701 fits perfectly..

    Does anyone have any idea what's wrong with my screen?

    PS - I'm sorry if my post makes no sense, or is not logical, it's 2:25AM..
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    • #3
      Fused?

      This maybe a stupid question, but did you fuse the connection. If so did you use the lilli connector or cut the wires after the connector? If you didn't use the connector you need to. I wired mine into my PSU so that when the comp starts so does the monitor as well as it CLEAN 12v power.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by insaneramman View Post
        This maybe a stupid question, but did you fuse the connection. If so did you use the lilli connector or cut the wires after the connector? If you didn't use the connector you need to. I wired mine into my PSU so that when the comp starts so does the monitor as well as it CLEAN 12v power.
        No fuse, actually. I did a temporary connection, so the Lili + line is connected to the IGN line going to the PSU. I also cut the power cable after the in-line "Power Filter."

        However, I don't understand how a power problem would cause the screen to lose the signal?
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        • #5
          MMMMmmmmm.

          Maybe the draw of your PSU is taking current from the lilli. Have you tried a different path or direct connect (w/ fuse of course). My setup is different- I use my PSU as a standard PSU (I manually press the PWR button). Other than a rewire (different line for lilli) or run the lilli off your psu (like I did 250 watt atx4) with a spare molex 12v to mon and the 5v line goes to a USB hub. I am clueless to whats going on. If you find a solution post it plz.
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          • #6
            HMMMMMM, that is odd. My setup has three EBY701s connected to the PSU. I simply cut the cig adapter part off, then connected it to a fused distrobution block, which the goes to the PSU 12 V rail. I left the power filter on. What type of PSU is it? What are the stats of your whole system, it could be your straining the PSU, but usually the PSU will shut off and give you a warning light, or at least mine does. Also the PSU may have voltage settings, I have a OPUS 320 and my PC would not turn on in the car but worked perfectly in the house. Turns out I have the jumper set to 12 volts. I then moved it to 11.5 volts and the PC has worked perfectly ever since.
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            • #7
              Mobo: Intel DGLY201
              PSU: M2-ATX 160W
              one 2.5" HDD, 256MB RAM, BU-353 GPS, and a small PS/2 touchpad (touch controller on my lili went out a long time ago).
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              • #8
                If I read your post right, your current setup is IGN --- PWR Filter --- Lilliput, correct? The power filter is not a regulator, just a capacitor and inductor to suppress spikes, so while your car is running, the Lilli is receiving ~13.7 volts. It might not like the voltage that high. Does the issue occur if the car is not running, but on? Try wiring it to either a 12v regulator (which won't be able to power the screen if the car is not running unless its a switching supply), or best solution, plug into a spare molex connector. The screen only draws about an amp, so your M2-ATX should be able to handle it.

                Other than that, it could be a loose connection, but the above is a good idea anyway, whether its the issue or not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cMags View Post
                  If I read your post right, your current setup is IGN --- PWR Filter --- Lilliput, correct? The power filter is not a regulator, just a capacitor and inductor to suppress spikes, so while your car is running, the Lilli is receiving ~13.7 volts. It might not like the voltage that high. Does the issue occur if the car is not running, but on? Try wiring it to either a 12v regulator (which won't be able to power the screen if the car is not running unless its a switching supply), or best solution, plug into a spare molex connector. The screen only draws about an amp, so your M2-ATX should be able to handle it.

                  Other than that, it could be a loose connection, but the above is a good idea anyway, whether its the issue or not.
                  I'm gonna change the power soon, I never thought about checking if the quirk occurs when the car is off.. However, I don't understand why "No Signal" indicates a power problem? I checked the VGA cable on both ends, and everything is nice and tight. So the problem may be within the monitor, or the power?

                  When I rewire the power, should I wire it like this?:
                  Lili --> Power Filter --> Power supply,
                  or
                  Lili --> Power supply?
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                  • #10
                    I was finally able to bench-test the monitor using the original AC adapter, and whaddaya know? IT WORKS. I apologize for doubting those of you who said it was the un-clean power, but it just didn't sound right to me. I'll be getting started on the re-wiring soon, but I have another question:

                    My touch controller has been out for quite a while, and I've no idea why. Today, I put the monitor on my Dell laptop, and the monitor was recognized (I used it as a 2nd monitor), but when I plugged in the USB cable, I got the normal "Installing Device Driver Software," followed by an "Unknown Device," then finally "USB Device Not Recognized." I ignored those messages, and installed TouchKit, but TK can't find the controller. When I tap the screen, the "USB Device Not Recognized" pops up like 3 seconds later. It looks like the touch controller is still sending out data, but it gets corrupted somewhere along the line.. Any ideas?
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                    • #11
                      Only one idea...

                      I myself would ck the ribbon cable for the TS it may have came loose. Are all the connections clean(no dust or dirt) . That's all I got... Anyone else
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                      • #12
                        I took it apart, and I realized that the guy who made the hinge-mount for my screen used screws..... As it turns out, there were 2 screws that were shorting something out in the touch controller! I tried it w/o the housing on my laptop, and it was immediately recognized.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by angel120 View Post
                          I took it apart, and I realized that the guy who made the hinge-mount for my screen used screws..... As it turns out, there were 2 screws that were shorting something out in the touch controller! I tried it w/o the housing on my laptop, and it was immediately recognized.
                          Oh wow that is halarious..... At least it didnt permanately break something. Well its cool your moving forward.......... Im still trying to figure out what to do with 2 of my screens..... Does anyone have extra ribbons for the buttons they can sell me?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
                            Oh wow that is halarious..... At least it didnt permanately break something. Well its cool your moving forward.......... Im still trying to figure out what to do with 2 of my screens..... Does anyone have extra ribbons for the buttons they can sell me?
                            I'm glad you think it's hilarious! (lol jk!)

                            I'm excited to get my carPC back up and running, and I can't thank you guys enough for helping me. I was about to plop $300 for a Xenarc 705TSV, plus waste time figuring out how to mount the new screen.

                            At this point, I'm working on re-wiring my monitor, I have a bunch of spade connectors so I can easily hook it up inside my house and out in the car.

                            Hijack, I think they sell extra ribbons @ digitalww.com
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                            • #15
                              Excellent! Glad to hear that a little troubleshooting helped you save big bucks. Although, it's too bad that we prevented another "broken" screen from going on the classifieds cheap...

                              As far as powering from your PSU - I've got mine directly wired to a hard-disk molex connector - no filter. I figure that the PSU is putting out clean enough power for the PC, it should be fine for the monitor. I've had no power issues. And with the right programming, the EBY-701 supports auto-power-on, so I power up the PC, and the monitor comes right up on its own. Powering off the PC brings the monitor down too.

                              I'm interested in your "custom mount/hinge" Got any pics?

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